Zirkle defends segregation comments

by Samuel King (king@wsbt.com)

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Republican Congressional candidate Tony Zirkle defended his comments about segregation

Tony Zirkle is one of four people seeking the Republican nomination for 2nd District congressman. (WSBT photo)

By WSBT News1

SOUTH BEND — Republican Congressional candidate Tony Zirkle defended his comments about revisiting the idea of segregation, saying they were taken out of context.

"No one's calling for segregation as to what we saw in the past, where it was removing political power and oppressing the African-American community, that was wrong and that was criminal," Zirkle told WSBT News.

Tony Zirkle is one of four candidates who wants to challenge Congressman Joe Donnelly in the fall.

In comments to both the South Bend Tribune and the Kokomo Perspective, Zirkle questioned whether desegregation has worked. He cited high out of wedlock birth rates and high crime rates to support his position.

“What I'm trying to do is call some attention to some serious and important issues in the black and white community that need to be addressed and are not being addressed,” Zirkle said.

Zirkle believes those issues can be dealt with without segregation. But if those efforts fail, he says a modern, non-oppressive form of segregation may be a necessary evil.

He told WSBT News his plan would give blacks more political power.

“They would have six states, so instead of having one half-black senator, well they would have 12,” Zirkle said. "That's a phenomenal increase in political power.”

St. Joseph County Republican Party Chairman Chris Riley told WSBT News the comments do not reflect Republican values.

“This is the party of Abraham Lincoln and when somebody runs as a Republican that means something,” Riley said. “There is a history and tradition to this party and these comments betray that history and tradition.”

Zirkle received 30 percent of the vote in the 2006 Republican Primary against Former Congressman Chris Chocola in 2006. He’s made other outrageous statements in the past.

"I know what he was trying to do. He's trying to get his name in the papers and generate some publicity for a fledgling congressional campaign," Riley said. "But the comments that he made degrade many people, are hurtful and regressive."

Two of Zirkle’s opponents in the Republican primary, Luke Puckett and Joseph Roush, have denounced the comments.

Democratic leaders, including Congressman Joe Donnelly, have done the same thing.

African-American leaders say they are offended.

"I think that our country is in a state of trying to come together in ways that it never has before and to hear those very disturbing comments by Mr. Zirkle is disturbing,” said Rev. Timothy Rouse, a Democrat and president of the South Bend Common Council. “Persons with that kind of mindset would not be worthy of being elected officials."

Zirkle says the criticism of his views doesn't bother him. Even if he doesn't win, he says at least the issues are out there.

Friday, Aug 1 at 4:31 PM Meddy wrote ...

Let the rethuglicans show their real colors. I'm actually happy when people like this come out and make comments like this. It just sheds more light on the type of people that need to be marginalized in this society. If they didn't pop their heads out like this we wouldn't know who to make fun of for being morons.

Saturday, Jul 26 at 8:23 PM John McBride wrote ...

Those who condemn the idea of segregation as "Evil" or "Nutty" need to answer one simple question: Name one community or school that was improved by integration.

Thursday, May 1 at 7:12 PM just me in mich wrote ...

actually zirkle kinda looks like adolf hitler to me, if i lived in indiana i would be ashamed. i sincerly hope that everyone in indiana does not feel the same way he does and if youn do shame on you!!!!!!!

Thursday, Apr 24 at 11:52 PM Only the Lonely wrote ...

I don't like the word "inferior" but "opinion" and "segregation" should be near extinction. So, if one would seperate what they believe to be seperate and continue to a finite end, that would leave to a single person in the center. Only one superior person. Well, that can only be God not this Zirkle. Unless he believes that he is superior than God. Not my opinion!!! My opinion that Zirkle believes that he is above all to the finite end. From that,and all above, that makes him "Only the Loney".

Thursday, Apr 24 at 12:19 PM messeyeuh wrote ...

The black panthers want a seperate nation inside the US for blacks. Zirkle's intent is entirely different but the end result is not that far removed.

Thursday, Apr 24 at 11:39 AM Jeff wrote ...

Hey, if we get rid of all the inferior people, who'd be left to post comments?

Thursday, Apr 24 at 11:28 AM Lix wrote ...

Of course he is entitled to his opinion. If he weren't, we wouldn't be reading it. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't protest his opinion.

Thursday, Apr 24 at 3:33 AM Anonymous wrote ...

There ain't no KKK in Osceola! Okay? I've looked! there are NONE. The nearest chapter is in southeastern St. Joe County and believe me, there's nothing GRAND about it. In fact I think this particular Klan was busted to 2- K because even they were too extreme for the the triple K. Look in the yellow pages for the chapter closest to you. They're list under KOOKS-KRACKPOTS & KNUCKLEHEADS.

Wednesday, Apr 23 at 7:32 PM Major Mel Funkshun wrote ...

Everyone has their right to spout their opinion. Everyone else has the right to call the spouter a freaking idiot.

Wednesday, Apr 23 at 5:47 PM MadRaven wrote ...

To ANNOYED: Nixon was the turning point when the racist Dixiecrat/Dems switched sides to the GOP and the "Southern Strategy" was born, but like you said, let's not let a little inconvenient history get in the way of a nice steaming batch of GOP manure

Tuesday, Apr 22 at 9:54 PM Carmen wrote ...

Well, it figures! You have the grand wizard of the KKK living in Osceola and now you have a GOP Congressman Candidate wanting lynching and segregation reinstated AND speaking at a Nazi's Party! I am SSSOOO glad that I DO NOT live in Indiana! Too bad so many of the public voices in that state are bigots! If I were a taxpaying citizen of Indiana I would do something about it!

Monday, Apr 21 at 4:34 PM I thought he was a christian. wrote ...

Mr. Zirkle is entitled to his opinion. For the rest of us ,Unfortunately, we get to hear it. The nazis said the same thing. The idea of the reservation comes from the same dumb thinking. The idea behind plessy vs Ferguson, which made segregation legal, came from the same idea. Shallow, stupid(yes i called you stupid) people think that if you banish all the "inferior" folks to somewhere else the world will instantly be better where you are, and all the problems of society solved. How Stupid

Sunday, Apr 6 at 10:30 PM Russ wrote ...

I am ashamed to even think this type of nonsemse exists in this country. We have to move forward not back. This Republican is why we need serious change in this country politically. He is a racist.

Saturday, Mar 29 at 7:32 PM William Wright wrote ...

Zirkle is a jewish convert turned Seneth Day Adventist who preaches this same nonsense in the church in Crown Point, Indiana. Do not be confused, he is not german, his real name is Fredrick Anthony Van Ness.

Thursday, Mar 13 at 5:09 PM She-Ra wrote ...

People already do pick out their own ethnic identity. Many have decided to become Cherokee Indians or Jews, based on one grandma five generations back. Then again, I think the Jews have rabbis to sort out who REALLY is a Jew. No reason other ethnic groups couldn't learn from the Jews.

Friday, Mar 7 at 6:38 PM Just Me... wrote ...

To jjsbp, LOL! Thanks! I did the "Wiki" and learned something new!Kinda funny,I would never have said it had I known! However,now that I have read all the comments afterwards,none of which had to do with the "Godwin rule",I think that it was worth "losing",and putting the thread to an end..however it apparently didn't..So let's try again!I still think that Zirkle looks in the picture above..just like Nazi-Hitler, but without the mustache,and his words sounded the same!LOL!Maybe that can end it~

Friday, Mar 7 at 5:10 PM Democrats??? wrote ...

To Annoyed, It is very narrow minded of you to say all democrats are responsible for modern racism . Last time I checked most KKK members claim republican values

Friday, Mar 7 at 2:27 PM St. Francis wrote ...

Yer a whack job! Nuh uh, yer a whack job! Nuh uh, yer a whack job! Nuh uh, yer a whack job... and on and on and on and on and on. I'm bigoted against the human race. Load of genetically screwed up primitives.

Friday, Mar 7 at 2:25 PM Anonymous wrote ...

while i dont agree with mr.zirkle, he does have the right to his opinion last time i checked. maybe that has changed since the last time i checked.

Friday, Mar 7 at 1:52 PM jjsbp wrote ...

Wow! Godwin's Law was invoked right at the beginning of this thread. Google it if you want to know what it means.

Friday, Mar 7 at 12:04 PM Steve wrote ...

Marj said it early and said it best: "The guy is a whack job."

Friday, Mar 7 at 11:17 AM Annoyed wrote ...

Look at history, folks. Institutional racism was created by Democrats. George "Segregation now, segregation forever" Wallace was a Democrat. Democrats opposed Reconstruction, which was meant to wipe out the social structure in the South that fostered racism. Democrats opposed the Civil Rights legislation in the 60s, as well as the Voting Rights laws. People also seem to forget that the Republican Party was founded in 1854 on a platform of abolishing slavery. But why let facts get in the way?

Friday, Mar 7 at 8:54 AM Marj wrote ...

UH!OMG! This guy is a whack job!

Friday, Mar 7 at 8:17 AM anon wrote ...

AHHH...to be a young idealist idiot again! Every generation has theirs.....

Friday, Mar 7 at 6:50 AM Anon wrote ...

Sure lets ship them off and away from us. Perhaps its a generational problem with people and dated look.I am targeting all the bigots out there who lived throught the civil rights movement and don't believe that other races are equal. Theres whitetrash living amongst us.We aren't a perfect race, i would say we are the furthest from it. We like to judge but not be judged. Perhaps all of you should keep your mouths shut and let us the,new generation,set this world right. Cause you F'd it up enough

Friday, Mar 7 at 6:04 AM anonymous wrote ...

When you continue to feed, clothe and take care of any minority, instead of allowing them to hold their own head up you are continuing to hold them down. Don't they see that?

Friday, Mar 7 at 12:12 AM Anonymous wrote ...

I'll bet his mom is so proud. "yes, Tony making a statement. He's geting noticed. We're so glad that those tutoring lessons from George Wallaces favorite son, David Duke are paying off." Actually Tony's stratigy is quite subtle. He has engineered a solution to our border dilema. All the illegals are racing back across the border because they are afraid they're going to rounded up and assigned to New Jersey. You go Tony!

Thursday, Mar 6 at 11:54 PM Johnson wrote ...

Where are the Russian, Polish, Chinese, Japanese, Italian, Jewish, Irish, Hungarian ghettos? Where are there high illegitimacy rates? Where are the Jews who are addicted, pregnant, poor, because of the near genocide of their grandparents? And, please, anyone who has never had to live in or near a ghetto, keep your righteously indignant, bleeding heart opinions to your precious selves. Thank you.

Thursday, Mar 6 at 11:46 PM Concerned for society wrote ...

This is such a ridiculous topic that it cannot possibly promote anything but comments that will go too far and ignite tempers. It is morally irresponsible for ANY news organization to promote notions that could very well fuel a fire that has never completely stopped smoldering. It would be so nice if newspapers and news broadcast just went back to reporting the news instead of trying to create it. This stopped being a story when what the candidate said was printed. Everything else is opinion!

Thursday, Mar 6 at 11:22 PM Greg wrote ...

Are you kidding? Here is the problem...too many people think they have the solution for everything. Guess what? You don't know anything...

Thursday, Mar 6 at 10:29 PM To EL wrote ...

Any white american feels this way. Minories have been given to many "rights". These are not right that even someone who is not a minoriy has. If you want to talk about racism. What is afirmative action? Have any studies show that pushing racial integration has been good for society? If you really dive into this, you will see that there is not one study that says this and many will say the opposite. It is taboo to say this in our society. Go Tony Zirkle. He has my vote as a republican.

Thursday, Mar 6 at 10:25 PM Speaks the Truth wrote ...

His comments were very well the truth. It seems like everyone thinks that desegration was a good thing. Racist or not, you have to profile to a certain extent. If we ran our society like a business we would have been doing this for quite some time. Why is it that individuals can say a specific ethic group has certain medical conditional but can't say that social problems are not tied to race (Hello DNA) and culture that race has created.

Thursday, Mar 6 at 10:19 PM Jay wrote ...

To annoyed. Are you completely a moron or just a slobbering idiot? But I do like how Zirkle is backtracking now... don't be suprised if you see him going backwards into his downtown South Bend office.

Thursday, Mar 6 at 9:55 PM CJ wrote ...

Blame it on the Democrats....sorry buddy, Republicans can claim this nutjob.

Thursday, Mar 6 at 9:21 PM El wrote ...

I'm speechless, utterly in disbelief that someone in 2008 can feel this way. Hopefully its a publicity stunt and not how he truly thinks. If so....scarey.

Thursday, Mar 6 at 9:09 PM anonymous wrote ...

Is this guy on crack????

Thursday, Mar 6 at 8:26 PM Annoyed wrote ...

I suspect this guy is another David Duke -- a Democrat who calls himself a Republican because a racist Democrat just isn't a surprise. After all, Democrats created modern racism, as they did slavery, segregation, Jim Crow laws while opposing emancipation and the right to vote for all citizens, not just their landed gentry. It's too bad the Democrats have been so successful at hiding their racist past and motivations. Don't believe it? Well, why did the Clinton camp darken Obama's picture?

Thursday, Mar 6 at 8:10 PM Just Me... wrote ...

To:"What was that?" Your absoulutely right, I wrote faster than thinking.For that I sincerely appoligize...my comparison to German's with Hitler is about as far from correct as possible...I did not mean it that way...however I do despise what the "Regime" brought to all of the world as I know it.. I grew up in Oak Ridge Tennessee...I was merely trying to compare his thoughts and his appearance with one despicable man in history...mostly by his way of thinking. No offense meant to anyone!

Thursday, Mar 6 at 7:25 PM What was that? wrote ...

This comment asking if Zirkle was German is just as much poison as what he is being accused of. It doesn't matter what color you are or nationality for what happened in Germany to take place. Bigotry is many times revealed by what we say. There were many in Germany that died trying to help. We all probably are more or less subject to these feelings toward others for all kinds of reasons.

Thursday, Mar 6 at 7:05 PM RLB wrote ...

You have got to be kidding. Thismis the best the Republicans can do in the 2nd District? If it is, they deserve to lose.

Thursday, Mar 6 at 6:56 PM Just Me... wrote ...

If you were to see him with a small,chopped mustache,who would Zirkle look like? By the way does anyone know if the name Zirkle is German?

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