Saint Mary's nuns lacking ID denied at poll by fellow sister

By DEBORAH HASTINGS, AP National Writer

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Sister McGuire, a polling inspector, had to turn away about a dozen of her fellow nuns

Julie McGuire waits for voters Tuesday May 6, 2008 in South Bend, Ind. Sister McGuire, a polling inspector, had to turn away about a dozen of her fellow nuns when they showed up without proper identification to vote at Saint Mary's Convent in South Bend, across the street from the University of Notre Dame. McGuire said most of the nuns were in their 80s or 90s, and the other nuns had spoken with them frequently about the need to get out to a Bureau of Motor Vehicle branch for their free ID. (AP Photo/Joe Raymond)

By Beth Boehne

About 12 Indiana nuns were turned away Tuesday from a polling place by a fellow sister because they didn't have state or federal identification bearing a photograph.

Sister Julie McGuire said she was forced to turn away her fellow members of Saint Mary's Convent in South Bend, across the street from the University of Notre Dame, because they had been told earlier that they would need such an ID to vote.

The nuns, all in their 80s or 90s, didn't get one but came to the precinct anyway.

"One came down this morning, and she was 98, and she said, 'I don't want to go do that,'" Sister McGuire said. Some showed up with outdated passports. None of them drives.

The convent will make "a very concerted effort" to get proper identification for the nuns in time for the general election. "We're going to take from now until November to get them out and get this done.

"You can't do this like school kids on a bus," she said. "I wish we could."

Elsewhere across the pivotal state, voting appeared to run smoothly, despite the fears of some elections experts that the Supreme Court's recent refusal to strike down Indiana's controversial photo identification law could cause confusion at the polls.

Indiana's photo ID law is the strictest in the country. The Republican-led effort was designed to combat ballot fraud, said supporters, who also have acknowledged that no case involving someone impersonating a voter at the polls has ever been prosecuted in Indiana.

The state's American Civil Liberties Union sued, calling the law a poll tax that disproportionately affected minorities and elderly voters, those most likely to lack such identification. On April 28, the Supreme Court ruled 6 to 3 that the law did not violate the Constitution.

In a primary expected to draw record numbers, a voter hot line set up by the secretary of state's office mostly received calls concerning precinct locations, spokeswoman Bethany Derringer said.

But a group of voting rights advocates that established a separate hot line reported receiving several calls from would-be voters who were turned away at precincts because they lacked state or federal identification bearing a photograph.

One newly married woman said she was told she couldn't vote because her driver's license name didn't match the one on her voter registration record, said Myrna Perez of the Brennan Center Justice at New York University's law school, coordinator of the 1-866-OUR-VOTE hot line. Another woman said she was turned away from casting her first-ever ballot because she had only a college-issued ID card and an out-of-state driver's license, Perez said.

"These laws are confusing. People don't know how they're supposed to be applied," she said.

According to the New Voters Project, sponsored by Student Public Interest Groups, about a dozen college students at Notre Dame, Butler University and Indiana University said they were told at the polls they didn't have the right form of identification.

Angela Hiss, a 19-year-old sophomore at Notre Dame, presented her Notre Dame ID card and her Illinois driver's license. Poll workers did not inform her that she could have cast a provisional ballot, she told project staff monitoring her polling place.

In some counties, polling locations ran short on ballots as voters flocked to Indiana's first meaningful presidential primary in 40 years. Indiana's largest, Marion County, had to print several thousand extra Democratic ballots because of increased demand in traditionally Republican voting areas, said Angie Nussmeyer, spokeswoman for the clerk's office.

"Primaries are very quiet, and I think the turnout we might see today probably rivals some of our general elections," she said.

In southern Jackson County, at least one precinct ran short of ballots and an electronic backup system failed. Poll workers made copies of ballots and planned to hand-count them, which was expected to delay results there.

Several precincts in northwestern Porter County, where Barack Obama was expected to do well, also ran out of Democratic ballots, and a judge ordered polls to stay open an additional hour.

Nancy Zondor of Chesterton said she went to vote at her Porter County polling site about 4 p.m. only to be told she would have to wait or come back for a Democratic ballot. She said she had to leave without voting to drive to her son's track meet.

"I was aggravated, for sure, it's a big election," said Zondor, who planned to vote for Obama. "I just always vote in every election and want to."

Since the Supreme Court decision last month, advocacy groups have fretted that people showing up to vote in Tuesday's primary would not understand their rights, which include being able to cast a provisional ballot and obtain a proper ID within 10 days so that ballot would be counted later.

Sean Greene, of the nonpartisan electionline.org, was monitoring precincts in the Lafayette area of Tippecanoe County. "It's going pretty well," he said, despite long lines. "Most of the people I've seen today are prepared and used to this. They have their IDs out already."

That thought was echoed in South Bend, where Elizabeth Bridges, 63, said half of the people working in her voting precinct were family members, but still she showed her ID.

"I think the law is a good thing because a lot of people are crooked," she said.

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Associated Press Writers Tom Murphy, Tom Coyne and Ryan Lenz in Indiana contributed to this report.

Thursday, May 8 at 5:09 PM jP wrote ...

No ID, no vote. See ya sista

Thursday, May 8 at 10:23 AM hillery wrote ...

very interesting...today's Trib article states they already knew before going they needed ID...but they don't want to talk about it.....

Wednesday, May 7 at 9:41 PM IO'm rolling tonight! THANK YOU I'm here all night! wrote ...

Well I certainly hope Sister Mc Guire has enjoyed spending her 15 minutes of fame playing 'god'! When she gets to the pearly gates and St. Peter asks for the proper I.D I hope she has everything in order because in Heaven they don't take Visa or Master Card. And as far as American Express goes, well let's just say there is an express but it aint to America! NEXT!

Wednesday, May 7 at 2:06 PM Old School wrote ...

They should have gone down to Our Lady of the License Branch first.

Wednesday, May 7 at 1:43 PM Mr. Sarcasm wrote ...

I agree with MM. Think of all the times you're forced to show ID. Do you really think someone would get on an airplane and say they were John Smith, when they were really Osama Jihad? Would you have a problem getting on the plane after them? Of course not. Everyone in the world is completely trustworthy.

Wednesday, May 7 at 1:19 PM west sider wrote ...

If only they would enforce id's and proof of being legal every day here and not just for elections. We the legal taxpayers deserve that much from our government. Just come to the west side to see my point of view.

Wednesday, May 7 at 12:58 PM Mars wrote ...

MM may have a point! There are lot of people who just dont vote in this country. If we get rid of these BIG BROTHER ID checks then we can just have anyone show up and vote for those lazy non-voters. Thats whats called Democracy People!

Wednesday, May 7 at 11:36 AM M wrote ...

MM how is requesting a form of ID to prove you are who you say you are unconstitutional?

Wednesday, May 7 at 7:21 AM Anon wrote ...

MM, wrong, it isn't unconstitutional, the Supreme Court ruled it so last week. It's been all over the news, there is no reason not to have know.

Wednesday, May 7 at 7:13 AM Anonymous wrote ...

I'm not sure I want people voting who are not abreast of some of the goings on like a picture ID. Come on now people it's a simple item "Picture ID."

Wednesday, May 7 at 12:40 AM MM wrote ...

requesting any kind of photo id to vote is ridiculous and probably unconstitutional. it needs to be stopped.

Tuesday, May 6 at 7:20 PM hillery wrote ...

first let me state I am catholic so you all don't get on your high horses here....How is it possible for WOMEN in the United States of AMERICA of an advanced age not to have a picture ID ? My mother didn't drive but had one...How would ANYONE get thru life without one when it is a basic essential? Do you keep your nuns away from TV and Radio? Don't see any excuses here....

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