Indiana congressmen vote 6-3 against bailout bill

By The Associated Press

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By Beth Boehne

Following is reaction from the Indiana congressional delegation to the $700 billion emergency rescue package for financial markets, which defeated Monday in the U.S. House of Representatives on a 228-205 vote.

The Indiana delegation voted 6-3 against the bill. Democrats Joe Donnelly and Brad Ellsworth and Republican Mark Souder voted to support the bill, while it was opposed by Democrats Andre Carson, Baron Hill and Pete Visclosky and Republicans Dan Burton, Steve Buyer and Mike Pence:

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"It is now imperative that Congress come together and develop a response to the crisis facing our financial markets that reflects the American people's belief in personal responsibility and fiscal discipline." — Rep. Mike Pence, Republican.

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"I have been rushed to judgment by the Bush Administration before. There hasn't been enough time to evaluate the impacts this legislation would have if enacted, or to consider alternatives. Congress deserves time to weigh the benefits and the potential pitfalls of borrowing this money." — Rep. Baron Hill, Democrat.

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"We are now in the golden age of thieves. And where I come from we put thieves in jail, we don't bail them out." — Rep. Pete Visclosky, Democrat.

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"I am bothered that Secretary Paulson offered an immediate government solution rather than taking the time to explore effective private sector and market based solutions. The Paulson plan was an unprecedented infusion of government power into the private financial sector." — Rep. Steve Buyer, Republican.

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"When there are serious people discussing the possibility of another economic depression, it is time to act. The rescue plan was not perfect, but it was necessary. And while no one took any pleasure in voting for it, the alternative — doing nothing — is potentially disastrous and therefore unacceptable." — Rep. Joe Donnelly, Democrat.

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"I believe this particular bill would be devastating to the economy and create an inflationary nightmare. We must also ensure that we are not inadvertently purchasing bad debt from China or other countries." — Rep. Dan Burton, Republican.

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"Ultimately this is about that worker in Vincennes who is wondering if his pension will be there in the future; the single mother in Greencastle who dreams of sending her children to college; or the small business owner in Boonville who is trying to meet payroll. These are the Americans that have everything to lose if Congress fails to act." — Rep. Brad Ellsworth, Democrat, in statement before the vote.

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"While I do agree that action must be taken to solve our nation’s engrossing economic crisis, it is essential that the right action be taken. There are systemic problems with our nation’s economy and regulatory policies. Systemic problems that require a solution that is more developed, balanced and curtailed to the needs of everyday Americans." — Rep. Andre Carson, Democrat.

Thursday, Oct 9 at 10:58 AM Anonymous wrote ...

vote for luke puckett in the second district!

Wednesday, Oct 1 at 9:00 PM WE THE PEOPLE wrote ...

HEY PALIN LIE IS MORE OF THE SAME, U DONT SEE, STOP USE THE WOMANS FOR POLITICS, SHE DONT KNOW NOTHING BUT LIE,

Wednesday, Oct 1 at 8:52 PM WE THE PEOPLE wrote ...

IS BAD, THIS GOBERMENT DONT GIVE US CHOICE, JUST TWO PEOPLE FOR VOTE AND BOTH ARE IDIOTS, THEY ARE PART TO ALL THIS PROBLEM, THAT WHAT THEY CALL 'DEMOCRACY', WOW, GOD BLESS AMERICA AND US

Wednesday, Oct 1 at 2:36 PM J wrote ...

Speaking of crooks: "Long before the current Bush Adminstration, George Bush Sr., along with former government officials and the Bin Laden family of Saudi Arabia, created a private investment firm called the Carlyle Group. The purpose of the company is to acquire interests in arms manufacturers. Because it is a privately owned company, it's dealings are only rarely reported on in the financial news, but it is one of the biggest beneficiaries of America's drive to war."

Wednesday, Oct 1 at 7:37 AM LarryW wrote ...

If I were either Barney Frank or Chris Dodd, I wouldn't leave my Congressional office without a bag over my head.

Wednesday, Oct 1 at 7:28 AM LarryW wrote ...

To Royalstarblue: You noted concern that the commies would someday invade the nation. Well, that day has arrived with Obama. There has never been a presidential candidate falling so far to the left. His proposals for massive increases in spending and huge increases in taxes are clear measures. His big gov'ment policies are in direct opposition to the desires of our Founders. His type of social engineering with direct support from his Democrat henchman (Frank, Dodd) have caused this crisis.

Wednesday, Oct 1 at 7:18 AM LarryW wrote ...

The people who have responded that this mess is all due to banker's greed had better grow a brain. If you were a banker and someone came to you and said, "I need a loan, but I may not be able to pay it back," would you loan the money? The only way I would make the loan is if I knew that the Feds would pick up the tab if the loan failed. Yes, this is related to the element of greed, and this is where Barney Frank and Chris Dodd have stepped in. The fault lies with the socialists in Congress.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 10:57 PM USMC7 wrote ...

When are people going to wake up? This financial mess just did not happen overnight. The Senate has a committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs and the House of Representatives has a similar committee. The Senators and Representatives on these committees are supposed to ensure this kind of thing never happens. Apparently they must have been playing golf instead of doing their job. We need all new Congress people who have not been corrupted by "Politics". Go Palin!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 10:55 PM rick wrote ...

When the people vote, they should vote against any incumbent irregardless of their party. We could not elect a worse group of disgusting partisans. we do not have to worry about electing a sexual predator. We have some we elected before. No problem with electing people who take bribes or benefit family members. We have them too. So this is the only way to help straighten out our Congress.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 10:55 PM cr wrote ...

Get out tomorrow and call your senators and tell them to vote no. They are going to ram this bill down our thoarts if we do not light up the switch and load their email up. We need to call a citizen arrest on congress and the sec! Paulson is a joke and this is just a midnight cabinet trick by the one world order bush to scare us into a marxist economy! Where is the oversight committees to even check the constitutionality of this action. light up the switch board and say not hell no!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 10:44 PM royalstarblue wrote ...

This economic crash is the fault of Wall St. and the rich members of Congress who pushed for acorn loans for people who could not afford it. It's also a direct result of NAFTA where jobs left the USA. Shame on the Bush's and Clintons. So much corruption in govt and so much mafia involvement. Can they guarante a bailout is in this nations best interest? What about our national security? Will we be able to defend this nation from the Commies who are going to oneday invade this nation? Pray

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 9:51 PM Mongo wrote ...

Thanks to all who voted no! I realize my mutual fund company probably bought every rotten security out there, but 700 billion for what? I haven't even seen a breakdown of what jackalope farms or furbearing trout streams are being bought with all the money! Remember Neil Bush and the Savings and Loan Scam? We just finished paying for that...

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 9:43 PM WJC wrote ...

WOW, I can't believe that people still think that ONE man controls the entire country!! The congress and the senate have the greatest control over our country Not the President and they have been run by the democrats not the republicans. Go take a Civics course!!!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 9:39 PM Winti wrote ...

When you wake up and realize we are on the back of the bus and others are driving us to our enslavement it will be too late, may already be too late. Bush didn’t cause this problem, although he exacerbated it. There is plenty of blame to go around from both Democrats and Republicans. Obama or McCain will not fix the problem as they are part of the problem. Why are “they” so quick to bail are out Wall Street and let Main Street fend for itself. The serfs don’t matter.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 9:33 PM Jim wrote ...

It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress. --Mark Twain

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 9:32 PM dave wrote ...

@alan --um, this wasn't a socialist liberal democrat" idea. a REPUBLICAN administration tried to socialize wall street and make us all pay for the screw ups of their benefactors! did you forget which party bush belongs to?

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 9:24 PM ME wrote ...

Why was my earlier comment not posted? I did not use any bad words. Only told it like I see it. Stop blaming Clinton for stuff that has happened in the last 8 yrs. Please!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 9:10 PM rich wrote ...

the economy won't recover for decades. people don't trust the government anymore, let alone wall street with their retirements !!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rmQsA0mxwo

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 9:02 PM crayon51 wrote ...

The market will do just fine without the government probably better without them. They could not oversee their jobs to monitor the sec to fine and find violators of the law of lending what makes them think we will want them poking in wall street? all wrong doers should be prosecuted and thrown in jail including Congress transgressors! This will pass like 87, 97, and 2002 so get out of the way and let wall street correct itself!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 8:14 PM Alan wrote ...

As someone who today lost thousands of dollars in 401k savings, I say thanks to all who voted against this bailout. I truely understand the national and international downside to the market corrections that will occur. However, these corrections are necessary without further Government intrusion. Capitalism has not failed but Democrat Social engineering has been shown for the failure it is. It's time for voters to wake up and see that voting for the liberal socialist Democrats has a high price

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 8:08 PM maryo wrote ...

NC Congressman Virginia Fox today explained why there will never be investigations into the criminal activities of Barney Fudd, Raines, Jim Johnson, Dodd, and YES, Obama, etc. Per congressional rules, only the party in power can conduct investigations. Do you think Ms. Peloser and Mr. Greed will be putting any investigations of their donors on the docket?

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 8:02 PM maryo wrote ...

Hey, WE THE PEOPLE, does your illiteracy comes from years of liberal teachers who find more worth in advancing their leftist agendas than teaching kids to read and write?

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 7:42 PM HOOSIERS FOR FAIR TAXATION wrote ...

Get behind the national effort to Abolish The Federal Reserve Bank...ask your Congressman to cosponsor HR2755. Read our blog for updates!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 7:34 PM Toby wrote ...

The important thing to remember is that Clinton and the Democrats bought plenty of votes from minorities and low incomes at the expense of the economic well being of the nation as a whole. Barak Obama played right along. MCCain tried to stop it. http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-32,GGLD:en&q=minority hud clinton mortgage CHANGE, huh?

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 7:26 PM Hiho wrote ...

Someone SHOULD go to jail for this! Peloski, Franks, Dodds -- Hi Ho, Hi HO, it's off to jail you go!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 7:24 PM WE THE PEOPLE wrote ...

WHY JORGE BUSH DONT BAILOUT WALLSTREET WITH ALL THE MONEY HE SEND TO IRAQ AND AFGANISTAN AND WE STILL GOING TO PAY HIM FOR LIVE FOR THE POOR JOB HE DO IN 8 YEARS, WOW, WE WE GOING TO WAKE UP.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 7:19 PM QUESTION OF THE YEAR wrote ...

WHY EVERYTIME THE REPUBLICANS ARE IN POWER THEY SCREW US AND HOW COME WE STILL HAVE PEOPLE BELIVE IN REPUBLICANS, I AM SO IMPRESS. BRAVO THE BAD PART IS THIS TIME WE HAVE NO CHOICE, TWO IDIOTS RUN FOR PRESIDENT, GOD BLESS AMERICA AND SAVE US.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 7:03 PM JJ wrote ...

Thursday is a New Vote STOP IT FROM BECOMING LAW Phone, email, fax Jam the Machine!!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 6:56 PM Nyarai wrote ...

The Fed Bubble http://www.supercal.com/thefed

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 6:53 PM Chris wrote ...

When will everyone wake up? The CRIMINAL in this whole thing is Rep. Barney Frank-D, he and Sen. Chris Dodd should BOTH be locked up and put in prison due to their "relationship" with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and BLOCKING legislation by McCain to reform both of these organizations when BOTH Alan Greenspan and Bush warned Congress and asked Congress to reform these two institutions which were at HIGH risk and would risk our financial markets. If we had fixed it in 2005, we would not be here!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 6:51 PM cpo25 wrote ...

We don't always put Wall St thieves in jail - sometimes we make them political advisors like Raines and Johnson for Obama

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 6:16 PM Ken wrote ...

This is a watershed moment in US history. We are writing the history of the USA right now. Either we stand up for ourselves or we lay down and let them enslave us, possibly for generations. If you want to understand how something works - follow the money! and it is not coming to you and me.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 6:13 PM Ken wrote ...

The money the government wants to give Wall Street is our money because we will pay the bill. Stop paying CEO's to do a poor job!! Reward success not failure!! Let the water find its own level. This attack was stopped, they will try again, we must stop the next one as well. This is a battle between us and "them". If we lose we lose forever.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 5:58 PM Dave wrote ...

If we put theives in jail we would only have a handful of Congressmen.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 5:56 PM Steve wrote ...

We put a bunch of liars, cheats and crooks in Washington and they rarely, if ever, go to jail.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 5:46 PM JULIE PROTER wrote ...

OBAMA: THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE MCCAIN: THE PUPPET FOR BUFFET THE WALL STREET KINGPINS ARE KILLING YOUR COUNTRY AND ENRICHING CHINA AND RUSSIA, THE EU AND THE MIDDLE EAST CURRENCIES. SAVE YOURSELVES NO NO NO ON ANY BAILOUT

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 5:40 PM jorge wrote ...

Hey DEMO'S give us some names..that should go to jail. I have a few for you. 1. ranes 2. johnson 3. barney 4. dodd 5. paulson 6. pelosi 7. reid 8. acorn 9. freddie employees whoo cooked the books 10. fannie emloyees who ooked the books

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 5:23 PM Laura H wrote ...

NANA the people writing before you are more than upset they are wanting reform - they are tired of people going to Washington and stealing the hens the eggs and the hen house and patting themselves on the back Franklin Raines;Barney Frank, Chris Dodd Do your homework NANA I believe in peace/love and forgiveness but these are Elected officials

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 5:19 PM ragnarb wrote ...

Does this include frank, dodd and obama who used fanny & freddie to funnal cash back to them?

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 5:08 PM Panda Letters wrote ...

9/30/2008 1:57 PM Mode: e-mail; a quickie By: Panda The public does not want the city of thieves to spend $700 billion on bad banks. 1st rule never trust the city of thieves. Pelosi, as stated, has proven as unstable. Ref.: WSJ by Reilly and Eavis 9-26: It will take time for the credit markets to defrost. End the quarter and yearly reports due in Dec.. “… large amount of bad [toxic]] assets are concentrated in a handful of large banks. The first big step has been taken, that of

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 4:58 PM Joules wrote ...

Somehow I don't think that $ 700 billion will be enough money to cover Barney Frank's considerable posterior, not to mention those of Brack Obama, Franklin Raines and Chris Dodd (among others). We taxpayers will in the dock for more...lots more, just wait and see!!!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 4:46 PM Rob wrote ...

Lets not worry why this happened, who was responsible, or how we can prevent it from happening again. Lets throw a boat load of money at it and hope it goes away.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 4:45 PM Larry Grizzle wrote ...

Republicans did sound the alarm. The Dems blocked all efforts to reform Fannie & Freddie. Jail? Yes, for Barney Frank and Obama two of the highest paid people on the special interest pay list for Freddie & Fannie. Throw all the Dems in jail for all I care for attacking and hating our country for the last 8 years. Traitors!!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 4:44 PM whatshisname wrote ...

At this point it's not gonna help to fume about how we got here except to use experience to avoid further problems. I believe we should only apply a bailout only to the extent that would prevent total collapse. (If that is a real threat.) No million dollar pensions and all that foolishness for their executives.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 4:20 PM william gill wrote ...

pelosi,reid,dodd,frank,raines, anyone for an investigation!!! IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 4:13 PM Doug C wrote ...

If the crooks in the Fed Govt pass any type of "Bailout" I would really like to see every person who has been responsible with their home loans, i.e. 30 year fixed, STOP making their payments then I think that would get their attention!!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 4:08 PM Nancy wrote ...

I am appalled at the ignorance of some commenting here. I suggest educating yourself about this issue as much as possible so you can have a useful viewpoint to post.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 4:05 PM Barnacle Bill wrote ...

Pete Viscloskey - representing the most corrupt district in Indiana. They do nothing to criminals up there, except allow them to stay in office (unless they are NOT democrats). What a hypocritical sob.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 4:00 PM Dave in Ohio wrote ...

It's time to let the chips fall where they may. Not one dime of taxpayer money should be paid for this bully, blackmail, shakedown, con job. What do we teach our children? "Live above your means. Borrow more than you can repay. Speculate without worry. Someone elase will pay the bill when it comes due."?

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 3:50 PM Scott Manley wrote ...

If Obama does not call for the ivestigation of Frank,Dodd,Pelosi & Raines. Then he does not represent "CHANGE I can believe in". Its more of the same. This is also true for McCain who must put his "Country Fist" , ahead of the Bankers and special interest. If Sarah Palin has been brought in to clean up house. This must be her number one task. People need to do "time" for this. I am tired of being swindled

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 3:47 PM Diane wrote ...

Our Government officials are elected into office. Palosi has been destructive to our economy since she's been the house speaker. Those Liberals are experts at one thing,the blame gam. Every Democratic and Republican that failed to protect our economy from this crisis should be investigated (financially) What were they doing while receiving taxpayers money, obviously not their job. Like Obama we're paying his salary so he can run for President atleast McCain knows where his pay comes from

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 3:42 PM robby wrote ...

The country is already going down the drain what does it matter anyway.Crime, Drugs, An unnecessary war, personal freedoms getting tossed out the window. Let the economy fall apart and maybe the real United States the one in the constitution will come about instead of being manipulated by the elites of this country for their own benefit.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 3:37 PM erik wrote ...

TCW Union and Jesse Jackson had a small hardhat demonstration in front of stock exchange yesterday. They were definitely against the bailout, even as it gradually morphed into an Obama rally. lol... Makes no sense but what else are they going to say? They're wasting their breath in NYC, even the dead will vote for Obama.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 3:32 PM Wally wrote ...

I'm happy to see that so many others want to put the mostly Democrats in jail that were behind pulling this stunt. Those in favor of a bail out should bail them out.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 3:20 PM ONTIME wrote ...

If that's the case, then about 65% of your democratic party ought to be in the Gray Bar Hotel at this very minute.....

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 3:18 PM dp wrote ...

if I remember correctly, Obama did not want a commission to investigate. We need a bill to help the economy but still take those responsible to the court try them for treason for trying to wreck our economy and then take them out back and execute them.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 3:02 PM Rod wrote ...

The current problem is not at all like Enron and Worldcom. Those were run by thieves. The current situation comes from a mania just like the Dutch Tulip bubble. Everyone from homebuyers to bankers, to brokers were caught up in it. Where there was fraud, by all means find it and prosecute it. But, don't destroy the world economy because of misdirected anger. Wall Street is in shambles. It will not escape the pain.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 3:00 PM Buckshot wrote ...

Ha! Where Visclosky is from is northern Lake County; where the criminals are in elected office. How many have been indicted or fled the country back to Greece, Pete? All Dems of course, and Pete campaigns for them. Total BS.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 2:52 PM adam wrote ...

hey morons...liberals and conservatives. every idiot member of congress on both sides of the aisle should lose their job. these people are running this country into the ground by catering to special interests on both sides of the aisle. we need a third party in this country NOW!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 2:50 PM TL wrote ...

Isn't there a bit of a conflict of interest problem with Pelosi et al even being on the floor? She's got $500,000 of AIG stock on the line with this bailout.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 2:48 PM edeldoug wrote ...

1) it was a BAD BILL 2) The Democrats have enough votes to pass anything without a single Republican Vote. Around 60 Democrats voted no along with the Republicans! 3) Go to http://starboard.blogtownhall.com and read about the market meltdown and how to fix it.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 2:45 PM Hackweiser wrote ...

A Democrat telling me that he puts thieves in jail...Ok, then how about the matter of my tax dollars? Do you go to jail for thieving that from me?

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 2:38 PM Teri Schreckengost wrote ...

There has to be an investigation into this CORRUPTION, beginning with Frank,Dodd,Pelosi & Raines .Pelosi makes me sick.Who does she THINK she is? I'm sure these people are sleeping just fine at night knowing their money is protected. The government needs to be taken away from these corrupt politicians and given back to the AMERICAN people.YOU DIMS ARE DISGUSTING!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 2:30 PM Amanda wrote ...

I hope Nancy Pelosi decides to jump off a bridge tonight!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 2:28 PM Tom Riedel wrote ...

Thank you Indiana Delegation for opposing this theft of the American Taxpayer. This plan should be created in the light of day without lobbyists and bring in real experts who have proven right over and over again!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 2:25 PM William wrote ...

Jon... you are wholly given to the mind of an uneducated liberal who does not know the history of economic surplus in this Country. Surplus occurs when wealth happens. Wealth happens when government removes it's paws from the market place monetary cookie jar and actually punishes corporate greed rather than profit from it ala Frank Raines, Barney Frank, Barack Hussein Obama and therest of the liberal anti-American party.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 2:12 PM ken wrote ...

Well if you vote out or jail the ones that are in this sham, heres the shocker ,you would have to vote or jail most of the democrates even Obama. I Know we cant do that hes our missiah.Oh no.waa,waa,waa. get a life.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 2:04 PM flcracker wrote ...

the attention of the american people is one day! in 2002 when republicans controlled congress they tried to reign the freddies in. the house passed the bill. when it got to the senate, guess who fillibustered trhe bill!! why christopher dodd. the highest campaign contributer from the fannies. why the media does not research this shows a definet bias against republicans. this whole mess is the democrats fault. while you have pelosi and all the other robots blaming bush. democrats=socialists

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 1:51 PM Jim Buchanan wrote ...

Mad Chinaman wrote that Nancy Pelosi ought to be tortured and butchered...he crossed the line! We, as Americans, can at least use the facts to defend our thoughts and actions. Vote, read, and think. These are American tasks that have been untrained in the liberal school system. Take America back by holding each other responsible...especially financially responsible!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 1:45 PM Queenie wrote ...

People out there listen. Pelosi thought the bill would pass, therefore allowed some of her Dems to vote against it because they are up for re election in few months and the public was demanding a No vote. Another plan to screw the public. They don't do anything without thinking of themselves first. Get rid of them when it is time to vote. I am ashamed of them and they should be ashamed. Remember McCain warned them years ago.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 1:44 PM Term Limits wrote ...

"Change" means a new congress. Vote the bums who voted for this sham of a bailout out of office!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 1:35 PM zeb wrote ...

You Dims should have thought about cooperation before shoving the Republicans out into the hall and locking the doors. Are you forgetting the "Community Investment Act" sponsored by the dims and that the Republicans tried to stop this meltdown several years ago. I think you guys are going to jail for screwing up our government. You dims have done nothing but make gas more costly, flailed us with "global warming" nonsense, and now have precipitated in crashing our stock market. What next?

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 1:31 PM jimconch wrote ...

The real reason the bailout bill didn't pass is it doesn't pass the smell test. Anytime you can get the American taxpayer to pay back your losses for bad investments, it stinks.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 1:18 PM Charles wrote ...

I couldn't agree more with Rep. Pete Visclosky, Democrat. So when is he going to pursue charges against Dodd, Frank, Raines, Gorelick and the rest of the liberal cronies that created/hid this mess? Talk is cheap...

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 1:16 PM Joe wrote ...

I would rather weather any storm this will bring, then let the foxes in Washington bail us out and my children be forced into paying for it.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 1:10 PM donald wrote ...

This like the savings and loan and Enron. Whenever the media turns over a rock, a Democrat cockroach comes scurrying out. In enron, I think his name was Robert Rubin.. A former Clinton administrator was the dirtiest. He tried to stall investigators until he could unload Citibank holdings in Enron. After that rock was turned over we quit hearing about Enron.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 1:09 PM Ric wrote ...

I guess he wants to expand the jails to accomodate all the people in his district that lied on loan applications to get those mortgages they aren't paying. It's called 'bank fraud'

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 1:07 PM BarneyFrank MustGo wrote ...

I assume from his comments, Rep Visclosky is on-board with the call to fire Barney Frank? Or is his indignation only toward those from the other side of the aisle? How about a little democratic leadership? This wasn't about "bailing out Bush", this is about the American economy.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:41 PM Tora wrote ...

I, too, agree with Visclosky. B. Frank, C. Dodd, N. Pelosi, et al should be in prison. I, too, agree with McCain, who told the world in the 1st debate that Washington changes people, the inside the beltway mentality corrupts people. How true!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:39 PM Joe wrote ...

I agree, that we should put thieves in jail rather than bailing them out. I also agree that perhaps there should be some more discussoin on this. Perhaps there should be a panel put together to give their expert opinions starting with Alan Greenspan and Warren Buffet. If they agree that the bial out is necessary for the good of the country, then we should have a bailout... and then put the thieves in jail.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:36 PM Farmer Bob wrote ...

How about this: Divide the $700 billion among the taxpayers, but require we put it into a commercial or neighborhood bank in a 2-year CD that we can't cash out during that time. That way we keep our money, the good banks get liquidity, credit eases for the little guy, and only Wall Street gets the depression it created and deserves.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:36 PM Mark wrote ...

Well in that event let's throw every member of this democrat congress in federal prison because they are the root cause of this meltdown. The dirty little secret is that they created this situation in order to scare the American public into allowing them to socialize the mortgage and banking industries. People like Barney Frank, Franklin Raines, Barack Obama, Chris Dodd, Nancy Pelosi and the rest need to be held accountable.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:34 PM hadenuf wrote ...

Policies were put in place during the Clinton administration to make loans to people who had no collateral, and no job. You can't make a housepayment while on food stamps and welfare. This policy was designed to keep a segment of society voting "democratic." Now where are they? THe looters of Fannie and Freddie need to be made bring the loot back. Several in congress need to be put under oath, B. Frank, C. Dodd, C. Schumer, N. Pelosi, M. Waters etal. Raines, Johnson, Mozilo also. INVESTIGATE NOW

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:32 PM Glorious wrote ...

Community Reinvestment Act Policy, (CRA-P) and corruption gave a license to steal from the American people. There are some in Washington that haven't been bought off. Investigate these dealings, don't complicate the issue.The nations top Economists are saying this bail-out is a "bad idea" listen to reason not who got us in this mess. Panhandlers with a silver cup.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:17 PM Barney Frank wrote ...

Did I really say these things in 2004???!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL36nwCSYUM Crisis, what crisis?

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:12 PM Ryan wrote ...

For all Clinton defenders, here's an article from the esteemed NYT printed in 1999: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260&sec=&spon=

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:06 PM starzzguitar wrote ...

You guys crack me up. I woke up today, no bailout, no problem. Stock market is up, lenders learned they have to fix the problem themselves. Good. But I see the foxes are still in charge of the henhouse. When is somebody going to get FIRED?

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:02 PM Gary wrote ...

TIME OUT I'am glad the market will be left to settle out for a couple of days. At first it looked to me as though government wanted to nationalize wall street. I didn't like rushing right in with a government bailout. I vote for taking time to look at private sector and market based solutions, which will ultimately have to happen anyway.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:01 PM amac wrote ...

Crisis always brings out partisan bickering even when the facts speak for themselves. Republicans AND Democrats alike are listening to the people and voting this down. Stop shoving blame in peoples faces this has been brewing for a VERY long time under A LOT of peoples watches. Stop the divisiveness and take our country back to the PEOPLE not the government and big business. Voting for president is only a quarter step. Take action and call your congressman, and get involved in your regions!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:00 PM texas wrote ...

If these people making millions a year would pay the same % as I do in taxes on the money they steal, we would have enough in the budget to bail them out.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 11:57 AM Tom EE from Indiana wrote ...

"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem!" Take responsibility for your actions AND INACTION!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 11:56 AM Tom EE from Indiana wrote ...

"...we put thieves in jail, we don't bail them out." If this were really true, those that facilitated this "inside job", should also go to jail. Congress, Republicans & Democrats alike have for years passed legislation making it easy for the risky loans that have led to the financial disaster that we now face. All those in congress who passively stood by should share jail cells with the CEO and upper management of the firms now facing doom.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 11:54 AM Florida Jim wrote ...

Where is this information in media:September 25, 2008 Barney Frank's Former Boyfriend Herb Moses A Fannie Mae Executive "Media Mum on Barney Frank's Fannie Mae Love Is their a more despicable group than Barney Frank, Pelosi, Harry Reid, Dodd, Durbin, Kerry, all of whom are heavily involverd in the corruption of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 11:48 AM Mad Chinaman wrote ...

Put Pelosi in jail? Hell that would be too nice/easy. She should be tortured and butchered along with the others responsible. Then her parents should be butchered for not teaching her better values. Remember, values are learned in the home, not in schools.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 11:41 AM lh wrote ...

Yes the CRA is the primary reason for the financial crisis. With lots of blame to go around. A crisis caused by politicians. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 11:38 AM Alan wrote ...

As someone who today lost thousands of dollars in 401k savings, I say thanks to all who voted against this bailout. I truely understand the national and international downside to the market corrections that will occur. However, these corrections are necessary without further Government intrusion. Capitalism has not failed but Democrat Social engineering has been shown for the failure it is. It's time for voters to wake up and see that voting for the liberal socialist Democrats has a high price

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 11:33 AM m p wrote ...

please someone investigate Frank and Dodd. They have so much to do with alll of this!!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 11:30 AM Prospector44 wrote ...

Reality check: First off let’s step back and take a look at what has really happened here. We have a bunch of financial institutions going under as a direct result of their own unmitigated greed and sheer stupidity. So, when they fail, what is really lost? I reality they are nothing but a bunch of middlemen. They get money from the government at a low interest rate and they turn around and loan it out at a higher interest rate. Anybody can do that.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 11:28 AM carolinablue wrote ...

washington has now offered the straw that has "broken the working man's back" DO WE ACCEPT THIS GIFT?? can we count on the any form of media to express our total anger over what washington has allowed bringing our country to this rampant & total distruss of everyone and everything??? Let's get out and send a loud and clear message to those acting as our representatives in washington their time is up!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 11:26 AM Kukee American wrote ...

I would have lost $10K yesterday if I had sold out and moved into the Money Markets. I didn't and I didn't. I still have the stock and yes they are worth less. So what? I am not stupid enough to run for cover, knowing that the stock market would recover. Duh. What really makes me happy is that Al Gore lost a huge amount of wealth. If he were driven into bankrupcy that would make me a very happy man. I have seen this reaction before and learned not to panic. The Bill should have failed. Thanks

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 11:23 AM AnnD wrote ...

It was laughful watching Barney Frank on the news last night. Of course, he blamed the Repubs. He didn't want it brought up that he said Fannie and Freddie were fine. He didn't want it brought up that Obama and Dodd received obscene amounts of money from them. He didn't want it brought up that democrats fought for mortages to be given to people who could not afford them so the could have "the American Dream". Well, look where it has taken us.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 11:22 AM Supepower wrote ...

These comments have turned to crap - who's moderating this rag?

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 11:20 AM CR wrote ...

B.FRANK,C. DODD, F. RAINES SHOULD ALL BE IN JAIL..AS WELL AS ANY POLITICAN WHO BLOCKED THE REFORMS NEEDED AT FANNIE AND FREDDIE. THIS MONEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN SPENT ON INFRASTUCTURE AND REDUCTION OF THE NATIONAL DEBT, ALTERNATIVE FUEL DEVELOPMENT, SS UPGRADE ANYTHING BUT BAILING OUT THE CORRUPTION, STUPITIY,AND PARTISAN POLITICS PLAYED AT FANNIE AND FREDDIE

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 11:18 AM God wrote ...

Yup...

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 11:08 AM big duke six wrote ...

the only solution is to vote out of office every single member of congress. anything short of this is approval their incompetence.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 11:04 AM Superpower wrote ...

Putting a band aid on this problem YET AGAIN, is not going to remedy it. This is nothing more than a fix. THe real solution is to let these companies fall and let the Market have a genuine correction and recovery WITHOUT the government "fixing" things. You saw what they did to Social Security, do you really think they know what they're doing when it comes to the mortgage industry?

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 11:02 AM Alan wrote ...

We put thieves in jail, we don't bail them out." — Rep. Pete Visclosky, Democrat While I agree that some of the parties involved may have well known what was going on I dont think the majority did. A lot of us got caught up in the windfall machine. Bought or sold houses for way too much, bought cars and things we could not really afford. I did it and I am not a theif. But now that reality has hit I'm not asking or expecting you to pay my bills. Like always I will pay for my mistakes alone

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 10:55 AM CV wrote ...

Watch the video of the Demos giving America the shaft. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5LCKyQhLj0

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 10:50 AM STEVIEG wrote ...

To listen and watch Barney Frank beat his chest and brag the bailout is a godsend is disgusting. He, Mr Obama, Mr Raines, and Sen Dodd need to be in jail. A bailout will be the final step to a Marxist state

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 10:48 AM stevec wrote ...

If Obama gets in office, there will be an armed revolution!!!! Maxine Waters, Lacy Clay, Frank Raines, Barney Frank, Gregory Meeks, and Chris Dodd should be sued by the People of the United States for dereliction of duty! They downplayed the warnings of the Fannie/Freddie scam! Obama has his fingers in all of this and the MSM again is given him a pass.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 10:47 AM george zucco wrote ...

Amazing how these big power mongers have billions of $$$ to lavish on themselves. They created bad mortgages, pyramided loans and sold them down the line to we the customers. Can't pay your mortgage because we hyperinflated the value of your house, raised your property taxes, insurance and mortgage rates, then deflated your equity, leaving you with nothing? Get out, you're foreclosed. Cheat on a MASSIVE scale and Big Gov't will bail you out. Too bad we all don't have golden parachutes!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 10:44 AM Mary Lou wrote ...

No Bail-Out!! I want to see this thing investigated to the fullest extent and let the chips fall where they may!! Pelosi and Reed need to be ran out of town, they are a joke---people need to demand justice if there is such a thing!! I'm mad as hell!!!!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 10:40 AM Omg! wrote ...

And I guess that people losing their jobs and the mortgage companies raising their payments by hundreds and even thousands HAD nothing to do with it. Did it? Why no? Wake up people and smell the coffee that has been brewing for the last 8 yrs. Oh and lets think back and figure out why these jobs were lost. Geezzz!!!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 10:35 AM T Sullivan wrote ...

After almost 20 years Visclosky & I finally agree on something....

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 10:33 AM Dave A wrote ...

This bill should never be allowed to pass. The cause was created by the gvrnment and carried on by greedy business and ignorant/greedy citizens. The solution is to let it fall of its own weight and let the market correct. Money/credit is only worth what it's "perceived" to be worth. Everyone involved in investing knows this. Currently, the perception of the market is that the assests owned by the banks are over-valued. No amount of relief will fix this until the market is pacified.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 10:31 AM rick wrote ...

Let history record the names of those who voted for this bill shamefully. Vote em out!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 10:29 AM Andy Nar wrote ...

I can just see the billboards with a picture of Greenspan laughing, saying "Brother, you asked for it." On September 12 Alan Greenspan essentially said regarding the United States' economy that if society wants a centrally managed economy then a centrally managed economy is what they will get. So get ready to experience the joys of a centrally managed economy, kids! 1776 is now just a nostalgic memory.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 10:29 AM ME wrote ...

I can't believe you crazy people still say Its Clintons fault!! He has been out of office how long!?! Actaully if you read about everything (business wise) that Daddy Bush let Jr. run HE took it under! Wow I guess this shouldn't be any surprise>! Really--huh? This is well stated facts not just what some northern hooisers WANA think.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 10:27 AM david wrote ...

WHISTLING PAST THE GRAVEYARD: Mark Twain: Congress is America's only permanent criminal class. PROUDHOME: ALL PROPERTY IS THEFT. POGO: WE HAVE MET THE ENEMY AND IT IS US.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 10:26 AM Angela A. wrote ...

I see the Democrats are blaming the voting down of the bailout on the Republicans. Weren't there 95 democrats who voted NO?! If it's such a great idea why don't the Democrats vote it in on their own? That alone tells me all I need to know about the bailout plan.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 10:26 AM rosdar wrote ...

AFAIC, the gov't and wall str and media are trying to pull the biggest snow job ever on the american tax payer. All those crooks should be in jail. NO to this 'bailout'!They'll only be bailing out OUR wallets into theirs!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 10:18 AM Brad A wrote ...

I applaud those Republicans and Democrats; who would not be bullied into a knee-jerk thoughtless decision. They used logical common sense and didn't listen to Bush or Pelosi to vote this "bailout" down. The sun came up, the markets have calmed. Maybe this thing can be stalled long enough for sensible measures to be put in place that punish the thieves not bail them out; encourages capitalism, free enteprise, and free markets; and stop the promotion of socialism.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 10:17 AM roosterzz wrote ...

What about A Hasting why is it he is not in jail

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 10:15 AM Hal wrote ...

Put those involved with this mess in jail! They will have to be put in a special Democrat jail to protect the other inmates!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 10:15 AM poorfarmer wrote ...

Cheney was CEO of Halliburton. Iraq war=no bid contracts=$$$$$$ Paulson was CEO at Goldman Sachs.... If you really think this bailout is aimed at helping the American people, then I have some WMD's to sell you.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 10:09 AM Western Family wrote ...

This is one household that's going to vote Against ALL incumbents!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 10:07 AM Yellow Rose wrote ...

As soon as they make the CEO's pay then they can come to me and ask for help. Everyone wants a home and the bakers put these people in houses because of the huge interest they could make. Greed is the ultimate cause of it all. If these people had to work for a living as I do they would not have so much time on there hands to figure ways to steal.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 10:06 AM R.Hamilton wrote ...

The CRA was passed by the 95th United States Congress and signed into law by President Jimmy Carter in 1977 as a result of national grassroots pressure for affordable housing (I believe the correct term is AstroTurfing)

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 10:03 AM Superpower wrote ...

Since Congress would never investigate themselves, an FBI investigation should be performed into the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac companies and follow the money trail back to Congress. This is the only way to put Dodd, Frank, Pelosi and Paulson in to a federal prison.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 9:59 AM Bob - Wheeling IL wrote ...

This was a BAD Bill. Put up a better bill. People have been preaching for Congress to be more responsible with their money. This was absolutely over the top, and they represented the People. Get some debate, present it to the people, get some reaction, etc., then make a decision. Don't expect people, nor their reps. to be forced to make a rushed decision. It took a long time to get here, and no guarantee that this will work. Unfortunately, the only reliable job Congress can do is finger point.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 9:59 AM Frustrated by the stupidity wrote ...

"crisis a democratic scam"??!! are you people kidding me? the reason we are in this mess is beacuse the general public spent more than it could afford. It's as simple as that. The banks facilitated this mess, by giveing more credit than the average perrson deserved to excercise any fiscal restraint. This crisis is real. Solid companies with real employees and real products will not be able to get the funding they need to survive let alon grow. This will result in fewer jobs and more defaults.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 9:38 AM Jayday wrote ...

How is Clinton to blame? He hasn't been in office in 8 years. If his policy was so bad why did it take 8 years for someone to notice it?

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 9:36 AM Ken T. wrote ...

Why in the hell are those clowns who caused this whole mess (Dodd, Frank, et. al.) in the middle of trying fix this problem?? And why are they not being called on it??? They should be in jail as the Dem. senator mentioned.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 9:35 AM jon wrote ...

Man, the bottom-feeding Drudge disciples are really flocking to this story, aren't they? Nothing like watching a bunch of uneducated hicks try explaining the country's economic condition.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 9:31 AM Tom Snyder wrote ...

Barney Frank got graft from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Don't listen to this socialist crook!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 9:30 AM Tom Snyder wrote ...

Barney Frank is a crook, like Chris Dodd. He was sodomizing a Fannie Mae exec for 10 years.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 9:28 AM Richard of JAX wrote ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs Please goes to the above site to see how the Dem's covered up the Fannie & Freddie mess. Spread the word it is true...

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 9:28 AM Barney Frank wrote ...

I think we need to focus on how we can resolve the problem. Not how it started. ;)

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 9:27 AM Larry W wrote ...

Yes, this is a partisan issue because the principal cause is the underhanded attempt by the socialists in Congress (Frank, Dodd, Pelosi) to achieve their objectives by pressuring lenders to make loans that would normally be unqualified. And now we're looking to these same people, who have control in Congress, to fix the problem? Maybe some Republicans are at fault here, but these guys are the "small fries." The Dems will attempt to push a bill injected with a whole new level of socialism.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 9:19 AM Mark wrote ...

It's amazing that they balk at a 700 billion bailout, but by voting against the bailout, it resulted in over a trillion dollars in paper losses in a single day. I guess 700 billion of taxpayer money is more important than trillions of dollars in equity.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 9:16 AM RichG wrote ...

Here are the folks who should be jailed-http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/29/video-democrats-insist-nothing-wrong-at-fannie-mae-freddie-mac-in-2004/

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 9:12 AM Melvin wrote ...

People what we are witnessing is the largest money skimming operation in the history of this country. Why didn't politicians raise the alarm years ago? The didn't because they were skimming money off in the guise of campaign contributions or other inventive ways that Wall Street funneled money back to the elected officials. Members of the Congress and Senate and members of Wall Street need to be going to prison, instead of bailed out.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 9:11 AM Joe wrote ...

Whoever voted against the legislation is a MORON. Just wait until you see the economic impact of NOT doing it. If you were against this legislation I hope you enjoy bankruptcy.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 9:10 AM PA wrote ...

I would feel much better about any plan if Chris Dodd and Barney Frank have nothing to do with it. With them working on a bill it's like asking two criminals who broke into your house to help you keep them out.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 9:07 AM Brooks A. Mick wrote ...

So, when are Barney Frank and Chris Dodd and H. Raines and Andrew Cuomo and Janet Reno and Bill Clinton going to jail? The root causes of the problem can be traced back to and through these people.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 9:06 AM WWWD wrote ...

Put Barney Frank and Chris Dodd in jail.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 9:05 AM Stuff IT wrote ...

The so called mel down is only by 10% of the mortgages....WHY do 100% ofthe people have to pay ? And I agree, put the CEo's in jail for fraud and theft.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 8:55 AM Superpower wrote ...

If theives are supposed to be in jail then why is Chris Dodd(D), still a free man?

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 8:54 AM JD wrote ...

What amazes me is that we all heard about the Real Estate Bubble bursting.. and now everyone is looking at each other with their finger in their nose. People placing immeadiate blame here can get the hell out of this country because what we need right now is a solution.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 8:51 AM Guy Incognito wrote ...

Instead of asking the Federal Govt for the money, why does'nt Wall Street ask the Chinese & Saudi's to put up $500 Billion each.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 8:51 AM Jean wrote ...

For Nancy P to use the word bipartisan is laughable. All the Dems have cared about is "getting Bush." They have no respect for the American people or anyone else. They are a do nothing bunch of hypocrits! And Pelosi's behavior shows her as senior citizen brat!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 8:46 AM Bucky wrote ...

The sky is falling, the sky is falling claims the media. One would believe that the media, Congress and the Fat Cats on Wall Street all work for the same people and its not the American People. Throw half of Congress and the Senate away, get rid of the CEO's and burn executive bailouts, someone please kick the Media's A** - big time.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 8:46 AM txinva wrote ...

I can hear now, Bail out passes, and does not do what is expected. The Dems will be screaming "Bush Lied" If it is truly a national emergency, then the Dems should step up and vote 100% for it and pass the bill. They have the votes and can do it with out the Republican support. But then they are more concerned about their on political hide than this nation. Or maybe we are being lied to and the crisis is not as bad as they make out.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 8:45 AM m e brooks wrote ...

I don't understand... Don't the democrats control the house? Why are the republicans being blamed then? 92 Democrats voted against this bill and they only need 12 more votes to pass it. So what happened? I guess Barney Franks is using that new math? What is funny is that Clinton's mandates on the banking industry started this mess and then the cheap money policy pushed it down the tube.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 8:36 AM Sue them! wrote ...

Maxine Waters, Lacy Clay, Frank Raines, Barney Frank, Gregory Meeks, and Chris Dodd should be sued by the People of the United States for dereliction of duty! They downplayed the warnings of the Fannie/Freddie scam!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 8:34 AM fill my pockets and look away wrote ...

Franks, Dodd, Pelosi, Obama and Raines etc. etc. and all those Dems who bled Fannie and Freddie and said, O there is no problem, no crisis just move along. They said keep making those loans to those who will never pay them back, good old working Americans will pay for the freeloaders...noooo problem. Jail them, Jail them Now! Lock up those blood sucking dems and don't let them get away with blaming Bush this time!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 8:31 AM kim wrote ...

" We are now in the golden age of thieves. And where I come from we put thieves in jail, we don't bail them out." — Rep. Pete Visclosky, Democrat LOL LOL LOL These clowns are the very defintion of "THIEVES" Oh yeah, you have my trust! Ha Ha Ha

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 8:24 AM jr wrote ...

Someone please give me a name or two. Who inserted in the proposed legislation that ACORN and others would get more money to bring down the G*d D**mn America?

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 8:18 AM early cuyler wrote ...

"We are now in the golden age of thieves. And where I come from we put thieves in jail, we don't bail them out." — Rep. Pete Visclosky, Democrat." Well, Mr. Visclosky, when can we expect the indictments against Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Nancy Pelosi, Obama advisor Franklin Raines, et al.? These people lined their pockets while opposing multiple attempts by the Bush Administration, going back to 2002, to prevent this mortgage meltdown.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 8:18 AM Steve wrote ...

There are only 2 people in this country qualified to evaluate the economy-Secretary of the Treasury Paulson and Fed Chair Bernanke. If they say we need a bailout, you better get them one. The House, Senate and 80% of the constituency in the US is not qualified to subtract 36 cents from a dollar and get the right answer.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 8:17 AM Sean wrote ...

One more comment after reading the bickering on this site. Do you guys have any clue? Dems are in majority and did not vote for it, you could blame them. Republicans had enough nays to change the vote, you could blame them. I think you have individuals who believe in limited role of government and others who believe in the welfare role. While some may be partisan it appears may are voting against their parties. I think individuals doing what they think is right is not partisan.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 8:11 AM Sean wrote ...

It is unreal reading these messages. The split in congress is the same out here. My two cents is simple. The government should not use tax payer money to bail out private companies. Economy be damned, we can survive depression better than we can survive socialism.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 8:02 AM debbie wrote ...

Come on people, this whole crisis is a democrat scam. Why do you think Obama has been so cool through this whole process. This happened two days before the debate. Pelosi didn't want her democrat congress to vote on this bill because they could lose their office come election time. Pelosi hoped republicans would bail her out. Pelosi and her democrats know Obama's community organizing groups created this mess and are working hard to cover it up and blame republicans. That's what they do.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 7:50 AM Anonymous wrote ...

Pelosi is an idiot. Either pass the bill with all your democrats if you want to make a partisan speach. but don't make some partisan speech and hope to get repulicans votes. If it was so inmportant that this passed then when did she bite her tounge and do whats right for the country. She should resign.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 7:49 AM P-O'ed in Seymour wrote ...

I am glad it failed! Sec Paulson came to the table with a THREE page proposal to spend $700 B. He along with the Bush Adm wants to bailout Wallstreet rich. Wallstreet created this mess because of their greed. This bailout should protect the middle class and not the upper class. I am very happy that my Congressman Baron Hill voted it down. There absolutely has to be strict oversight on how this money will be spent. No wonder Paulson and Bush wanted a quick vote beofore the Jewish Holiday.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 7:26 AM Kent wrote ...

Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA): I think it is clear that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are sufficiently secure so they are in no great danger... I don't think we face a crisis; I don't think that we have an impending disaster....Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac do very good work, and they are not endangering the fiscal health of this country.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 7:08 AM leoflyer wrote ...

Think about it you Dems, Why have you not seen any congressional hearings on this? If the repubs were to blame, the dems would have already had endless hearings and ruined their lives and drummed them out of office with the help of the democratic attack dog media by now,and who , by the way, is also covering up for the dems by trying to blame Bush. Does anyone wonder why this happened just a month before the elections? Because it was designed to by liberals!Figure it out! Heads must roll on this

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 7:06 AM James Anderson wrote ...

If anyone goes to jail it should be Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and a host of other Dimorats that created the mess and then refused to allow any changes to the oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac. Lock them up and throw away the key.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 7:00 AM Paul V wrote ...

and to quote the greatest political orator in the history of mankind, Barack Hussain, "You can put lipstick on a pig.."...It will be interesting to see if the thieves in Washington can be convinced to bail out the thieves on Wall Street

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 6:32 AM Greg Indiana wrote ...

Guess you didn't know about Frank's lover. He had a big sweet heart job with one of them as well, along with Gorelic. When people start going to jail, then I can support the bail out, but not until.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 6:18 AM Don't forget! wrote ...

In 2005 (when the Republicans where the majority in congress) Congressman Shelby had hearings into this "Credit Swap" swindle and the Senate banking committee voted to stop it. EVERY SINGLE DEMOCRAT voted against bringing it to the floor of congress to be voted on! Remember folks, "YOu get what you vote for, don't forget Roseland did the same thing!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 6:18 AM Tom wrote ...

I'm disgusted with both sides of Congress. Pelosi is no leader, but just a partisan hack. Republicans, and their right wing nonsense, should be thrown out of office. Bush, the inarticulate dunce, has lost everyone, and will go down as the worst President ever. If we need a crisis to get change, here we go.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 6:05 AM Michael I. wrote ...

Hey Ken at 9:48 - I bet you paid cash for your home and paid cash for your car that's 10 yrs old. I bet you paid cash for college, too. You idiots on this site trashing Democrats have only to look at the Republican crooks that used 9/11 to inculcate 8 years of fear by which privacy and freedom were eradicated while the financial elite were given free reign to feed their greed. Jobs are leaving; wages dropping; prices increasing; schools failing; teen pregnancy increasing. Thank you Bush leaguers

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 6:05 AM -nanaC wrote ...

it amazes me that some wat to blame . every one that is leading and praise those that just promise something to make them, look good get on tv and tell how wonderful this bill is and then. do nothing to get thier party to pull thier fair share to passit you all knocking tghis it was better. but when you get your statements from 6you 401k or retirement. we will see you cry buckets cause you wont havethe money any more. no high life in retirement.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 5:52 AM James R Poole wrote ...

the congressional hearings that took place in 2004 regarding the need for more regulatory action regarding Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac provides proof that the democratic leadership are more concerned with circling the wagons around their political cronies than being servants to their districts. Frank, Raines and all the rest should be tried and shot for treason!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 5:48 AM lurking in California wrote ...

What a laugh. Congressman Visclosky, why is William Jefferson (D) of Louisiana not in jail on those bribery charges?

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 5:39 AM Wayne G. wrote ...

Jerry Zeifman is a Democrat who was the lead counsel during Pres. Nixon's impeachment hearings. He has been callling for Nancy Pelosi to resign since 2007, saying she violates the Constitution and the 106th Congress House Rules Manual. He accuses her of "fostering tyranny by the majority," and violating the House Rules that "give her the duty to maintain order, civility and decorum and to foster 'comity' (mutual respect)" between members of Congress. www.jzeifman.com (pgs. 11-14)

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 5:31 AM Sandra wrote ...

Rep. Barney Frank said in 2005 that "Fannie Mae is not in a crisis." A number of other Democrats echoed that assertion. However, John McCain was in the process of presenting new legislation that would have regulated Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and the Democrats blocked it. Many of the Democrat leaders in Congress are beholden to the mortgage giants, including Obama who rec'd the second largest amount of money from them than anyone: $112,000.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 5:30 AM AZ. wrote ...

We wouldn't be in this mess if it wasn't for the worthless money that can easily be deflated that the Federal Reserve has the endless printing press to do. It's not backed by anything to even give it any value!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 4:02 AM John Q. Taxpayer wrote ...

"the partisian politics. this is so darn childish " Oh yeah? What about the provisions in this bill to bail out banks overseas? What about the banks that have moved Hdqs. to the Cayman Islands to avoid US Tax? Now the taxpayers of the USA help them? This bill provided for all of that. Your Congressman who was telling you CEO's won't get parachutes due to this bill, doesn't fully explain that it is up to the "Treasury Secretary's discretion" which means parachutes on my dime. BRAVO for NAYs

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 4:00 AM DL Thompson wrote ...

The Congress forced the banks to write bad loans to uncreditworthy borrowers. They forced FMac and FaMac to gaurentte these loans. They poopoo'd the conservatives who spoke against this and the Democrats stuck up for the lackeys they had entrenched in the fed's loan gaurentee scheem. Many got sweetheart deals for their trouble...Now, they blame the repubs...They are liars, thieves and cheats. Don't vote Democrat.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 3:59 AM Dave Harvey wrote ...

If there is another stab at a Bailout and it passes - this is what you need to do - so that you don't get stuck paying for so much as one nickel of it - DON'T EARN ANYTHING - DON'T PAY ANYTHING - DON'T BUY ANYTHING! Crash the crooks and the losers even more - until they bleed! www.Save Irvine.com

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 3:54 AM CongressManJonsey wrote ...

Thanks, Congress, for undermining the global economy and selling everyone down the river. What pis*es me off the most is the blame game played right after the vote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ2_JoOiduU Talk about amateur hour! "Oh, boo-hoo, my feelings are hurt! Let me vote down a bill to save America's banking sector, then I'll find my bottle and pacifier." Wait until the job losses start and the economy backslides into recession fully, then we'll know who to blame.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 3:45 AM eamon wrote ...

sure, the market will sink and the economy will take a hit but it'll correct itself if the "correct" action is taken. we must be patient.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 3:33 AM Ironic wrote ...

Don't buy what you cannot afford. It's as simple as it sounds. Who chooses to get these loans? Uneducated Americans who don't understand budget.America is a materialistic country..that to fit in with the social status we need expensive bling. Hopefully USA will learn that living with simplicity is all we need. Stop putting blame on one person, because it's the American citizens who put us into this mess. Not, just one political party. What a load of crap. Americans need a stronger education.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 3:24 AM Anonymous wrote ...

Put Pelosi in jail. She has been known to say that she is a "partner in [Bush's] power." The Constitution doesn't even give the VP that much power!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 3:22 AM W.E. wrote ...

The Democrat chief counsel for the Nixon impeachment hearings, Jerry Zeifman, has been calling since 2007 for Nancy Pelosi to resign. Besides her unauthorized trip to Syria, she "persistently violated her duty to exercise speaker powers in accordance with the Constitution and the 106th Congress House Rules Manual." She fosters "tyranny by the majority" and "violates House Rules that give her the duty to maintain order, civility and decorum and to foster [mutual respect]." www.jzeifman.com

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 2:46 AM Theresa Adair wrote ...

I am not a fan of Pelosi's, but while her speech was accurate, it was not appropriate at this time. However, if anyone believes that her speech was the reason for some Republicans to vote No on the bailout, they have to be drinking their own bath water. This is a ludicrous bailout and to think that this would be acceptable by the American people in its present form is an insult. This administration has been a disaster and no way will we allow another republican to live in the White House.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 2:25 AM The Limiter wrote ...

The best idea is to give every working legitimate American $500,000 after mandating that they use it to pay off as much debt as possible. I know, sounds like socialism. Im a conservative, but I think just this one time we should do it. We need to petition for that.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 2:13 AM Tom Thumb wrote ...

Going to Put barney Frank and Chris Dodd in Jail. The Dems have used fannie Mae as their own campaign piggy bank for years. "We are now in the golden age of thieves. And where I come from we put thieves in jail, we don't bail them out." — Rep. Pete Visclosky, Democrat.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 2:06 AM Chubster wrote ...

Learn about the cause of the "Economic Crisis": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU6fuFrdCJY

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 2:06 AM Acerdude wrote ...

Democrat policies which forced banks and mortgage companies to give loans to the poor for homes since 1977 is what led to this. Check it out for yourself. The ones who need to be jailed are the Socialist Democrat Party.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 2:05 AM THE ALTERNATE PLAN THAT WOULD WORK wrote ...

Thank you Gov. Huckabee for telling us on Fox about the Market-to-Market accounting practice that Bush could do in minutes that would bring tons of currency to flow, but he didn't... this bill was put before him and rejected by Paulson... praying that Bush will implement this and the other simple recommendations that were rejected. Praying McCain will stand strong to have this implemented and all of us behind him. We can have an effect once again, people. Thank you Sen. Spence and Gingrich.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 2:00 AM Ronald wrote ...

Bring in Mitt Romney, he can figure it out. Mitt would represent all Americans. I feel we have too many Wolves in Sheep clothing on both sides of the isle trying to do something they know nothing about. Mitt Romney would fix it. And then praise America not Dem's or Rep's.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 1:56 AM the emperor has no clothes wrote ...

I am SO proud of all who had the integrity to vote NO to this bill... it literally brings a smile to my face in these times of A LIE IS THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH IS A LIE... just for today we got to witness integrity and a desire to take back our country from those who seek to destroy it from within... Well, I pray we have more of these days to come, even through the hardships that may prevail, at least we will have our souls. Much more valuable and no one can take it away.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 1:51 AM idiot wrote ...

1 billion = 999,999,999 1 300 million americans 3.3 million to each american. Just saved 699 billion dollars, genius

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 1:50 AM John Disney wrote ...

Wall street banking is the enemy of america. Goldman sachs is its leader. Paulson bush and pelosi are guilty of conspiracy to defraud and belong in jail. Put them there !

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 1:20 AM Ralph wrote ...

I'm from Iowa, but props to the six reps from Indiana who voted to kill this sham of a bill. I sure wish I could take out a $30,000 loan for a new car that I can't afford, then default on it and pass it off to Uncle Sam to pay for. I'm so sick and tired of responsible people being punished in our system. Thank God for the House Republicans and quite a few responsible democrats. Want the truth? Watch this video and pass it on. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU6fuFrdCJY

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 1:05 AM tony the tiger wrote ...

I AM SHOCKED THAT SO MANY PEOPLE IN INDIANA ARE AGAINST THIS BILL!! The investment bankers who made a fortune off this stuff have already left the building. If we don't act the credit crunch will send this country into a depression and millions will lose their job and won't have any alternatives. Dont you want to retire? Send your kids to college? Have a job? 700 billion is just a loan by the government which will eventually be paid down with the securities bought. YOU ARE IDIOTS!!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 1:05 AM Anonymous wrote ...

All those Congressmen voting FOR this bailout should be FIRED by the voters. We need to dump EVERY incumbent in November. This "bailout" should be cancelled, not lowered in dollar value.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 1:03 AM WWJD wrote ...

Then put Pelosi, Dodd and Obama's financial adviser in jail...that's where they belong!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 1:03 AM Mike Horn wrote ...

Here is how the SubPrime Mess started. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU6fuFrdCJY

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:56 AM Jimmy wrote ...

Actually Mr. Visclosky, in this country we let murderers out of jail so they can murder again.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:53 AM TripleA60 wrote ...

NO BAIL OUT!!!! Why give the $$$$ to Wall Street. They took a chance and lost... Thats the way it works... Here is a wild and strange thought, why don't we just invest 700 Billion dollars in the American people... Put them to work, invest 700 Billion into our infrastructor fix the roads, fix the bridges... scheese I can barly spell and I can figure this out :-) Why give more money to the ones that lost it.... to me it is a no brainer

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:53 AM Dean B wrote ...

Hey look at me, I'm Barney Frank...nothing wrong with Fannie and Freddie...nothing to see here, just move along now...Let's let more people realize the American Dream of 'affordable housing' that they can't afford. Down payment? Naw, Ridiculous! Interest only? You Bet! Who's ready for round two?

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:52 AM WWJD wrote ...

Put Pelosi in JAIL!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:52 AM Mark wrote ...

Those responsible for this mess need to pay to clean it up. Those that benefited in the past need their assets seized to pay for this mess. We know who benefitted. It is time that they pay!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:48 AM Robby wrote ...

How to pass a bill: Get rid of Paulson. Make failed company ceos put $500,000, or more, of their own money into the bail out fund. Let those who caused it, pay for it.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:47 AM Steve Nash wrote ...

Well,my employer is probably going to do fine through this,but I feel sorry for all you people who feel smug standing by your "principles" but are going to be out of jobs/collecting welfare checks before the year is out.Common sense is common sense,and anyone who doesn't see the stack of dominoes about to come crashing down is incredibly naive. Y'all are willing to spend $600 billion a year on poor investments in "defense", but not on restoring the plumbing of our economy. Smart.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:41 AM The truth wrote ...

This is the thing. I don't care who you are republican or democrat. All of them have their hands in the pockets of all these companies. Every single one of these politicians are crooked in one form or another. And just like these CEO's they are greedy and will do everything they can to line their pockets. Who pays for it all?We everyday hardworking americans and when I say americans I mean all of us black,brown,green,red, and white. So go ahead and blame this party or that party its all the same

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:35 AM Hang em High wrote ...

Dodd, Frank and Pelosi should be tried for treason and then hung. Obama is also at the heart of this fiasco. Some democrat said for ONCE he is ashamed? Please.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:27 AM Jill wrote ...

I no longer live in Indiana, but this issue has become so partisan it is disgusting. Why not a simple bill that revoked Mark to Market provisions and let the FED do the bailing out? If the markets are frozen with toxic assets caused by Sarbanes/Oxley, eliminating the Mark to Market clause would de-toxify the assets almost instantly. You make too much sense. You must be listening to Newt. ;)

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:23 AM L Moore wrote ...

I am glad that people are waking up to the realization of what is happening and why...go internet! Yo may just save us all!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:22 AM JM wrote ...

So when are some Republicans beside Pat Buchanon, going to realize that exporting our manufacturing jobs to China are part of the problem. No more novus ordo seclorum. Our Homeland security is compromised by this and yet all the talk kahuna's can talk about is some poor Mexican sneeking across the border. Delusion exists on both sides of the aisle

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:22 AM Jim wrote ...

Dang - You folks in Indiana are refreshingly sane. Where is the media on this story? I've seen it touched on a couple times on Fox and CNN but the moderator always gains immediate control of the dialogue and changes the subject. I can't understand why nobody has the balls to take this story on and just let themselves be used as mouthpieces for the crooks that created the mess. The vote today made my decision as to who to vote AGAINST in Nov very easy...anyone who voted for the BO.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:18 AM Jill wrote ...

http://homepage.mac.com/mkoldys/blog/bik244421698.html

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:08 AM Tx Gal wrote ...

I'm grateful that I live in a State that has a right to secede - Let the East and Left coasts try and live with what they have elected. I am not surprised that Indiana wasn't sucked into Pelosi's game - now if we can convince Michigan to wise up!

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:03 AM Judge Jeffreys wrote ...

With some modifications that will add a few billion dollars to the cost, this bailout of the golden parachute guys should pass Saturday morning at around 2 AM in the morning. The only question is whether there will be fog rolling in when Bush signs the bill in the Rose Garden.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:01 AM yngvie baby wrote ...

I just read a few of the posts.....america is a very ugly country. Im ashamed to be one. Vote Mccain.

Tuesday, Sep 30 at 12:00 AM Pat wrote ...

I am greatful that there are some of our Representatives that still have the backbone to represent the people who elected them. This house of cards built on unlimited credit has to end sometime and that end is going to be very painful. Democrats and Republicans have to realize as many of their constituents already do by painful experience, that the consequences of getting over extended can be disasterous to their budgets. Congress needs to force fiscal discipline back on Wallstreet.

Monday, Sep 29 at 11:47 PM Betsy G wrote ...

Thanks 6 who voted no! We can't let Washington screw us out of a mess they created. Go to www.youtube.com. Search for "burning down the house" and learn the truth.

Monday, Sep 29 at 11:45 PM billy wrote ...

i am the reddest of Republicans and also cheer the few intelligent Democratic House members who were not filthy enough to support this massively fraudulent scam. and yes, i've lost tens of thousands of dollars in SEP-IRA and other investments in the last couple of days.

Monday, Sep 29 at 11:40 PM Bill - Texas wrote ...

Bill Clinton forced the lowering of ba