Is 'Joe the Plumber' a plumber? That's debatable

By JOHN SEEWER
Associated Press Writer

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Is 'Joe the Plumber' a plumber? That's debatable

Plumber Joe Wurzelbacher watches the presidential candidate debate in his home in Ohio Wednesday Oct. 15, 2008. Sen. McCain referred repeatedly to Joe Wurzelbacher, a plumber from Toledo, Ohio. Wurzelbacher watched Wednesday night's debate and said he still thinks Senator Obama's plan would keep him from buying the small business that employs him. About Senator McCain: "He's got it right as far as I go." Even so, Mr. Wurzelbacher declined to say who was getting his vote. He said he was surprised that he was called "Joe the Plumber" repeatedly during the debate. "It's pretty surreal, man, my name being mentioned in a presidential campaign." (AP Photo/Toledo Blade - Lori King)

HOLLAND, Ohio (AP) — Joe the Plumber's story sprang a few leaks Thursday.

Turns out that the man who was held up by John McCain as the typical, hard-working American taxpayer isn't really a licensed plumber. And court documents show he owes nearly $1,200 in back taxes.

"Joe," whose name is Samuel J. Wurzelbacher, was cited repeatedly in Wednesday night's final presidential debate by McCain for questioning Barack Obama's tax policy.

Wurzelbacher instantly became a media celebrity, fielding calls during the debate and facing reporters outside his home near Toledo on Thursday morning for an impromptu nationally televised news conference.

The burly, bald man acknowledged he doesn't have a plumber's license, but said he didn't need one because he works for someone else at a company that does residential work.

But Wurzelbacher still would need to be a licensed apprentice or journeyman to work in Toledo, and he's not, said David Golis, manager and residential building official for the Toledo Division of Building Inspection.

State and local records show Wurzelbacher has no license, although his employer does. Golis said there are no records of inspectors citing Wurzelbacher for unlicensed work in Toledo.

And then there was the matter of his taxes.

Wurzelbacher owes the state of Ohio $1,182.98 in personal income tax, according to Lucas County Court of Common Pleas records.

In January 2007, Ohio's Department of Taxation filed a claim on his property until he pays the debt, according to the records. The lien remains active.

At the debate, McCain cited Wurzelbacher as an example of someone who wants to buy a plumbing business but would be hurt by Obama's tax plans.

Wurzelbacher, a self-described conservative, had spoken to Obama at a rally Sunday near his home and asked him whether his tax plan would keep him from buying the business that currently employs him, which earns more than $250,000 a year.

"Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?" Wurzelbacher asked.

Obama said that under his proposal taxes on any revenue from $250,000 on down would stay the same, but that amounts above that level would be subject to a 39 percent tax, instead of the current 36 percent rate.

McCain said Obama's plan would stop entrepreneurs such as Wurzelbacher from investing in new small businesses and keep existing ones from growing.

The McCain campaign posted a Web ad featuring the exchange between Wurzelbacher and Obama.

During an afternoon taping of "Late Show with David Letterman," McCain said he had not yet spoken to Wurzelbacher, and apologized for the press attention he had received.

"Joe, if you're watching, I'm sorry," McCain said.

Wurzelbacher had to deal with a clog of two dozen reporters outside his home on a narrow street lined with ranch- and split-level homes Thursday morning. No detail about the divorced father of a 13-year-old boy was too small: Was he a registered voter? Did he have a plumbing license? Whom will he vote for?

Leaning against his black Dodge Durango SUV, Wurzelbacher at first was amused by it all, then overwhelmed and finally a little annoyed.

"I don't have a lot of pull. It's not like I'm Matt Damon," he said "I just hope I'm not making too much of a fool of myself."

He indicated he was a fan of the military and McCain but wouldn't say who will get his vote. He is registered as a Republican, the county elections board said, because he voted in the GOP primary in March.

Wurzelbacher said a McCain campaign official contacted him several days before the debate to ask him to appear with the candidate at a Toledo rally scheduled for Sunday.

He told reporters he's unsure if he'll attend, since he's now scheduled to be in New York for TV interviews.

On Thursday in New Hampshire, Obama said McCain was misleading voters by proposing tax plans that favor the rich while criticizing an Obama tax plan that would raise taxes only on people making more than $250,000 a year, just 5 percent of all taxpayers.

"He's trying to suggest that a plumber is the guy he's fighting for," Obama said. "How many plumbers you know that are making a quarter-million dollars a year?"

Wurzelbacher said he felt a bit overwhelmed by all the attention.

"I'm kind of like Britney Spears having a headache. Everybody wants to know about it," he joked.

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Associated Press writer Sharon Theimer in Washington contributed to this report.

Friday, Oct 17 at 9:24 PM J wrote ...

Well Joe I don't know about you, but I surely don't get back 1/2 as much as I put in.

Friday, Oct 17 at 6:41 PM joe wrote ...

well, goes to show how the dems want to fool you! the guy don't have to be putting 250,00 in his pocket a year. if he were to own a business then every amount paid would be taxable income. actual profits, and then all the money made to cover costs of material, labor, employee's, electric and other utilities. it takes more than pure profit to run a business. 40% of americans right now get tax refunds, so they don't actually pay taxes anyways. wake up america, youre being duped!!!

Friday, Oct 17 at 1:47 PM Fred wrote ...

That's not Frank. That's Pilsner. I'd recognize your cheering anywhere. How are you doing? Hope you haven't been signing up illegal voters for ACORN. There's a Federal investigation going on, you know? Yep, there may be some people going to jail, depending on who voted illegally in the primaries. Make sure you didn't sign a "Mickey Mouse" up, who then votes next month.

Friday, Oct 17 at 1:42 PM PUMA wrote ...

Hey, look at who has outstanding tax liens...it's Obama's campaign treasurer, Mark Nesbitt http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=36661&goto=nextnewest

Friday, Oct 17 at 6:08 AM mike wrote ...

no license makes him a plumbers apprentence or a plumbers helper. he is not a "plumber" he is just your average joe.

Friday, Oct 17 at 6:03 AM INSULTED wrote ...

T oGrit, not every American is a Christian, and being so does NOT make you unAmerican! And if it wasn't for SOCIAL security, a socialist program, you'd have precious little to fall back on when you retire. OH WAIT, it's going to be gone anyway from all the spending the Republicans are doing right now!

Friday, Oct 17 at 5:51 AM INSULTED wrote ...

As a Republican for over 30 years I find this generlization of the American public degrading and insulting. I, for one, do not imbibe, nor do I make $65 an hour just for showing up. I am a work-a-day woman that fights for every dime I make. I get more respect from the Democrats.

Thursday, Oct 16 at 11:35 PM Grit wrote ...

Joe may be a shill, but the point is a valid one. I'd like to know just how much of obama's millions he's "spreading around" now. Practice what you preach, anti-American socialist. It's ironic, after all the lies obama has told, that his camp even wants to pull up the honesty card. For starters, he claimed to be a Christian, but insultingly referred to anyone with faith as "bitter" for it. No real Christian could have said what he did. After his wife's clearly unAmerican remark, that was enough.

Thursday, Oct 16 at 10:23 PM Frank wrote ...

Go Obama Go!!!

Thursday, Oct 16 at 10:00 PM J wrote ...

This guy is a joke

Thursday, Oct 16 at 8:46 PM curious wrote ...

Al N. "100K" Joe W. "250K" The best tax plan is to be paid in cash?

Thursday, Oct 16 at 7:47 PM My Gosh look at the size of his head wrote ...

His head loks like a Watermelon, is it always that big or did it SWELL up when McPain mentioned his name 21 times last night ?

Thursday, Oct 16 at 2:05 PM ok wrote ...

No problem. We all prefer Joe 6pack anyway. There's a lot of these folks around with no professional liscense. It will be interesting to see how this ends up unfolding.

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