Some worried RV workers could be facing uncertain future

by Troy Kehoe (tkehoe@wsbt.com)

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Signs on a door at Travel Supreme tell the story in Wakarusa (WSBT Photo)

Signs on a door at Travel Supreme tell the story in Wakarusa (WSBT Photo)

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WAKARUSA -- Just days after 200 workers were given pink slips at Monaco Coach in Wakarusa, some are voicing new worries that more layoffs could be on the way throughout the industry.

WSBT News first told you Saturday night about the layoffs. The cuts amount to more than 15 percent of the company's total work force in Wakarusa, and the majority come from Monaco's production department.

Now, there's growing speculation throughout the industry that those cuts are just the beginning, and the last sentence on Monaco's layoff notice given to employees Friday may explain why.

"We regret that a reduction has to take place at this time, but the current business environment leave us no choice," it reads.

Just up the road at the Happy Days Cafe, people are worried.

"It's really tough right now," said Wakarusa resident Dennis Honsberger. "Gasoline's getting higher. Everything's getting higher, but our wages are staying the same. People are really getting scared."

And not just in Wakarusa.

"[We're] very concerned," said Nappanee resident Freida Myers. "The mobile home industry affects all of us."

Even the Happy Days Cafe has seen happier days. Sales have slowed recently as workers uncertain about their job security have tightened their purse strings.

"It's very scary, because every day we don't know what's going to happen," said owner Jean Miller. "We don't know whether we're going to be here, or not going to be here. We don't know if we have a job, or don't have a job."

And some worry it's going to get worse before it gets better.

Just down the road from the cafe at Travel Supreme RV on State Road 19, a sign put up last Wednesday on the front door reads "closed until Monday." Another right next to it reads "We are not accepting applications at this time."

Travel Supreme President Glen Troyer says it's a sign of a slowdown across the industry.

"We're meeting now to decide what our next move will be," he told WSBT Sunday.

Still, Troyer says all 230 of Travel Supreme's employees have been told to report to work on Monday. But he's unsure how long that full staffing will last.

"Everything is on the table," said Troyer. "Including layoffs. In fact, they're very likely."

It's the same story in Nappanee at Newmar RV. Employees there told WSBT they recently went to a 3-day work week, though none would comment on camera out of fear of retribution from the company.

Mayor Larry Thompson confirmed company executives have spoken with him about potential cutbacks, but he said he wasn't aware of any concrete plans for layoffs.

WSBT's calls to Newmar company executives were not returned.

That's left an air of "uncertainty" in towns like Nappanee and Wakarusa, whose work force is represented heavily by the RV industry. But some say it hasn't broken the town's determination.

"We help our neighbors and do what we can for each other," said Myers. "And we'll keep doing that."

"We have to do like everybody else," said Miller. "Just ride the wave."

Those 200 employees laid off at Monaco Coach will lose their health insurance coverage at the end of January, though a letter from the company says all employees will have the option of electing COBRA coverage after that.

Still, some are holding out hope that won't be for long. Even though RV shipments were down sharply in 2007 to their lowest levels since 2003, according to the RV Industry Association, some industry analysts are still predicting a rebound this spring, thanks to recent interest rate cuts and lower fuel prices.

If that is the case, a Monaco spokesman says the company may hire at least some of those workers back.

For more information on this story and how the RV job loss may indicate a recession, watch WSBT at 5:30 with Samuel King and stay tuned to wsbt.com.

Sunday, Feb 3 at 10:51 PM Just Me... wrote ...

You know what I heard? I heard, that Travel Supreme is in the process of being with a new name...I will not(nor, should I)mention the name...but the plans are in the works and apparently have been in the works...for those asking...(Just Me...) I hope it works out well...I'm sure it would be better than now.Maybe without so many lie's, deception, etc.Maybe better leadership..."Just Me..."

Sunday, Feb 3 at 9:53 PM Just Me... wrote ...

To"Let's pray for.." I for one have not heard anyone say that they thought that the owner's wanted to lay off,or shut down..I've never worked for T.S. But apparently,some people here have..Religion doesn't fit in..Maybe the truth,that they,as they see it,is there!Maybe you are an owner/manager etc.,or otherwise,just defending your position! Strange how some people hide behind race or religion,when they are in the "hot seat", and/or totally wrong!Pray as you desire!"It will be what it will be"!

Sunday, Feb 3 at 8:41 PM Lets Pray for the Economy! wrote ...

I personally enjoy alittle religious commentary. People are so evil. They just want to point fingers and put others down. I feel awful for the owners of these businesses. Who would think they want to layoff and close doors? It is human nature for others to lash out, but lets not lie.

Sunday, Feb 3 at 8:28 PM I'm Curious? wrote ...

If so many of you writers Know the owners of TS "personally". You should be telling all of us others the answers. Come on, due tell the details. Is TS over, are they still working? Who is really lieing about things? Do you think someone could arrange a personal meeting with them? Or maybe a phone number, since everyone knows these owners soo personally.. I sure wish i knew them that well. That I could say statements about them. I just don't know?? Maybe i'll think of something good to say!

Sunday, Feb 3 at 1:46 PM Just Me... wrote ...

To "Hey just me..once again, to whom are you refering your comments to? I don't think that I've made any "slanderous statements", not when it comes to theft, or impropriorty's.I beleve as I said that it is mostly the economy.It will get worse before it gets better..But it will get better..Some companies are larger than others, so therefore,some are having more of a "cushion" than others to weather the storm.Forest River for example has many plants doing very poorly,some doing fair-fine...

Saturday, Feb 2 at 10:20 AM Hey Just Me wrote ...

The point is that it is not wise to be throwing out slanderous untruths about people and situations that you do not know or understand. Better watch what you say.

Friday, Feb 1 at 10:10 PM Just Me... wrote ...

-"The Truth", In case you haven't noticed, this has become a "truthful outpooring of opinion".Personally,I don't find religious beliefs falling into the topic.If you are directing your comments to someone in particular,just say so..No need for such a threatening sounding statement, without making it direct...let alone without your opinion given toward the subject...

Friday, Feb 1 at 9:24 AM The Truth wrote ...

A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who pours out lies will not go free. Pr 19:5 Better watch what you say.

Thursday, Jan 31 at 10:50 PM Just Me... wrote ...

Anonymous 10:36p.m.-I understood your point..But for the most part,I think it is just the economy,the R.V.business does vary.I am told by trusted friends from just about each company that has been spoken of..It will get worse before it gets better..BUT!It will get better!I for one am just sick of the lies and deceipt from the various company leader's,it seems, we"line workers"know more about things than those in charge sometimes!LOL..Office workers think they run the place!LOL!NOT!, "Just Me"...

Wednesday, Jan 30 at 10:36 PM anonymous wrote ...

Hey Just Me-----where are these people coming from that don't get the owners of these companies are going to save themselves first, they are so snowed by these TS owners. They act like they know these people, I know these people personally. Hello, people, they are going to do what's best for themselves. Why would you think otherwise? You say it's not fault of theirs? Hello, other companies are not folding???? Do you not understand that they are not personally paying for perks-it's co. mone

Wednesday, Jan 30 at 9:06 PM Just Me... wrote ...

Julie, just so you know, at "months end", on a Friday night I'm drinking a beer most likely, thinking of how it has taken you 12 hours to do the 12 invoices from the last month...As to your "quarter end"....LOL...and by the way.. did you take out the trash on Saturday, or just scrape the sugar frosting from the desk?

Wednesday, Jan 30 at 8:46 PM Just Me... wrote ...

Julie,hmmm,let me imagine 23yrs. ago in the R.V. business..even on the plant floor.(production)a towable was what..12-20ft.A motorized maybe 20-30ft. and you only made what?5- 12 a month of each?(it was Holiday back then,not Monaco).And yes I'm sure you only made it for 7yrs. at the most.For,yes I remember from working there(Monaco),how pathetic it was to catch your attitude, as well as the other office workers,that thought you ran the plants..coffee runnith over,donut stains on the desks...LOL!

Wednesday, Jan 30 at 8:34 AM anonymous wrote ...

Hey Mitch, profit is fine, but spending more than you make and then not being able to pay the people you OWE because of it, is not. These people aren't going out of business because of the economy. Jayco's still here and any number of small companies are too.

Tuesday, Jan 29 at 10:44 PM anonymous wrote ...

Julie, I'm an old lady who did what you are doing, it isn't worth it, I know you need the money, but in the end, Monaco will go on without you and they probably don't appreciate you. There are better ways to make a living, enjoy life, again, I know you need the money and I understand why you do what you do.

Tuesday, Jan 29 at 10:33 PM anonymous wrote ...

I don't think the big dogs are laughing, if the truth be known, they are only a paycheck away from poverty. Why do you think they have to get rid of the other employees, they have to soak up what's left. Their payments are way higher than the linesmen.

Tuesday, Jan 29 at 9:56 PM Mitch wrote ...

anonymous wake up...why would they even go into business if they didn't expect to profit. RV workers know they work in a very unstable market at all times..they like the money it brings. You will be hard pressed to find more unstable employment. They took the chance and now it is time to suffer the chance. I do worry about the families, but the workers need to get more stable jobs and quit playing the market in the name of high wages.

Tuesday, Jan 29 at 7:53 PM Just me wrote ...

Why don't the big dogs come forward and speak the truth how fair is it for them to be sitting back and laughing as all of these families go into poverty....

Tuesday, Jan 29 at 5:27 PM anonymous wrote ...

Concerned business owner-you sound very caring, but not all are anymore, I know some of the ones we're talking about here, they don't care, they pad their families with diamonds and furs and vehicles and paychecks for no work-----and their families spit on those that "work on the line", they would never "work the line"-----that's where the problem lies here

Tuesday, Jan 29 at 4:54 PM concerned business owner wrote ...

As a business owner I am very concerned that so many people believe that the owners,ceo's and investors in these companies don't care. There is no business owner that I know that wants to lay off employees or have to close thier doors. Things have been slow for along time and all of a sudden it is real bad. The cost of doing business keeps rising and it has been hard to keep up without having to cut back. My heart goes out to those who have lost thier jobs, stay strong you will survive!

Tuesday, Jan 29 at 4:27 PM anonymous wrote ...

What's the story at Travel Supreme today? Closing?

Tuesday, Jan 29 at 4:27 PM Julie wrote ...

Dear Just Me,I'm sad that people like you have no clue what your talking about. We sold more then 12 units in December. I have been with this company for 23yrs starting in the factory for 7 of of those years. Don't tell me about breaking a sweat.You all think it is easy in the office. I would take the physical labor over the mental tired any day. At month end,& quarter end where are you at 7& 8:00 on a Fri. night. I'm here invoicing and 12 hrs on Sat. Now what do you have to say?

Tuesday, Jan 29 at 1:47 PM adw wrote ...

i was laid off from monaco last friday, i had good performance, excellent attendance but i was a newcomer....only a couple months there. i was hoping i could have stayed longer....but to get back into it when business picks back up...i don't know. i don't want to get laid off every year....i don't know how often they do these lay offs. the money was nice while it lasted. i think i might choose job security over that though.

Tuesday, Jan 29 at 12:18 PM Tim wrote ...

How often does Elvis play at the Good Times Cafe? That looks like a good show.

Tuesday, Jan 29 at 1:16 AM a political statement... wrote ...

Politicians WAKE UP!!! We need manufacturing jobs in this country! How in the heck can our children and grandchildren raise families working at hamburger joints and large chain stores. WAKE UP USA>

Monday, Jan 28 at 11:34 PM anonymous wrote ...

travel supreme screwed their employees, what did you expect, look at the top two, not their first time to screw somebody

Monday, Jan 28 at 9:49 PM Just Me... wrote ...

Julie, please don't be so sad.Nobody said that you didn't do 12 coaches in Dec.Yhey said that you didn't sell more than 12. As far as Human resource's LOL!, I worked at Monaco for about 4yrs.Before getting a little bit smarter(apparently not much)lol. But anyone in the office's would break a sweat just seeing the people that work in the plant's!The hardest day you have is when the coffee filters are gone, and the only donut left isn't one you like!Monaco has been running open coaches for months!

Monday, Jan 28 at 9:17 PM LITTLE O'L ME wrote ...

IM SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT TRAVEL SUPREME,ITS A SAD TIME FOR ALL AMERICAN'S TRYING TO MAKE A LIVINGIN THIS OLD WORLD BUT WE ALL WILL PULL THREW THIS IT'S HARD TO SWALLOW BUT THE PAIN WILL EASE IN TIME,AT LEAST PEOPLE KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE RV. BUSSINESS IT WAS TIME FOR ALL OF INDIANA TO KNOW..MY HEART GOES OUT TO ALL THE EMPLOYEE'S AT TRAVEL SUPREME. STAY STRONG I KNOW THE EMPLOYEE'S OF MONACO ARE MOVING ON WITH THERE HEADS HELD HIGH I HOPE YOU WILL DO THE SAME..

Monday, Jan 28 at 9:14 PM Just Me... wrote ...

LITTLE O'L ME, QUIT YELLING AT US!(using caps).Laura, your right. The R.V. business relies on many, many other companies to complete the coaches..It is just the beginning, and as Cassie said,"screwed". Most of us are just getting it slower as our so called leaders continue to lie to us,that way they can squeeze out every drop,and take their salary's/payoff's/kick back's etc.They will take a vacation,and when things get better(and they will)come back and resume the same job.No problem.(for them).

Monday, Jan 28 at 8:29 PM hd wrote ...

it is sad that this is happenning but let us all face the truth . We have lived high off the saleries of the r.v. which no one else had. it will hurt everyone but maybe we will appreciate having a house instead of a mansion a car instead of a hummer and food insread of booze and cigerettes

Monday, Jan 28 at 8:14 PM travel supreme wrote ...

My husband works (worked) for Travel Supreme they are closing their doors. Employees came in today at the end of the day they were told doors are closing, Some will stay long enough to finish what is going down the line. Service closed today and insurance ends Thursday at midnight. No more Travel Supreme

Monday, Jan 28 at 8:13 PM LITTLE O'L ME wrote ...

I CAN REMBER WHEN MONACO COACH GOT SLOW THEY WOULD GO DOWN TO 4 DAYS A WEEK, TO KEEP THERE EMPLOYEE'S WORKING, YES WE ALL KNOW THE ECOMNY IS BAD RIGHT NOW BUT TO LAYOFF 200 EMPLOYEE'S IS A BIT MUCHWHEN THEN THEY COULD OF WENT DOWN TO 4 DAYS A WEEK..AND KEPT THERE EMPLOYEE'S WORKING, IF THAT DIDN'T WORK THEN LAYOFF BUT IT IS SHAME FOR ALL THOSE EMPLOYEE'S TO LOSE THERE JOB..

Monday, Jan 28 at 7:55 PM HR MONACO wrote ...

LET ME TELL YOU FIRST THAT FROM WHAT I SEE IN THE HR OFFICE THAT THEY WILL CUT ANYONE.

Monday, Jan 28 at 7:32 PM LITTLE O'L ME wrote ...

MONACO COACH IS PROABLY WEEDING OUT EMPLOYEE'S BUT SOME OF THE EMPLOYEE'S HAD YRS. IN THERE WITH EXCELLENT WORK PERFORMACE THEY KEPT EMPLOYEE'S WITH SHORT TIME THERE AND SENT THE SENIOR EMPLOYEE'S DOWN THE ROAD. HMMM WONDER WHAT THE QUALITY OF THE RV'S ARE GOING TO BE LIKE NOW??? WITH INEXPERIENCE EMPLOYEE'S WHO ARE NOT QUALITY MINDED..I GUESS WE WILL JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE!!!!

Monday, Jan 28 at 7:30 PM Laura wrote ...

My husband and son both work for one of the steel companies that delivers steel to these companies. It will have a trickle down effect on alot of others.

Monday, Jan 28 at 7:18 PM Just Me.... wrote ...

The other day we were laughing about all of it at work.We all wonder how Warren feels right about now after buying out Pete.Not that he needs to care anyway.And now Pete doesn't either!LOL!We laugh about it,but yet they are the ones really laughing as we work harder for the company's, and they play golf..Julie,yes,Travel Supreme is going down..NO UNTRUTH!LOL,just accept it like the rest of us, and to the many "anonymous",cut throat yes,hourly no.(piece rate,except Monaco).Normal house cleaning?

Monday, Jan 28 at 7:16 PM cassie wrote ...

travel supreme screwed their employees

Monday, Jan 28 at 6:30 PM anonymous wrote ...

Sorry, don't think they care if you pay for cobra or not.....

Monday, Jan 28 at 5:55 PM anonymous wrote ...

I think Monaco is doing their annual or bi-annual cleaning. They probably did pick up 18 new dealers, just cleaning house, will hire new people when the times comes.

Monday, Jan 28 at 5:00 PM LITTLE O'L ME wrote ...

PEOPLE THAT WORK AT MONACO COACH , THAT GOT LAIDOFF HOW CAN THEY EXPECT THEM TO PAY FOR COBRA INSURANCE AND PAY THERE BILLS!!!! THREW THE GRAPEVINE MONACO COACH TOLD EMPLOYEE'S THAT THEY PICKED UP 18 NEW DEALER'S WHERE ARE THEY NOW????

Monday, Jan 28 at 3:59 PM anonymous wrote ...

tom---can they start as soon as 2 yrs. again? Who will finance them? Just wondering, don't know anything about it.

Monday, Jan 28 at 3:51 PM anonymous wrote ...

No---not big companies, Travel Supreme is really a small company---with two large families driving cars and a million other perks and never sticking their nose in the company door-----mismanagement---cannot continue in that manner and survive a recession----some of these things are probably corporately illegal

Monday, Jan 28 at 3:27 PM c from travel supreme wrote ...

well the verdict is here travel supreme is clearing out the line,lay offs are happening as the line moves.

Monday, Jan 28 at 2:47 PM Tom wrote ...

Here is how it works. layoff, fire, file bk and back in 2yrs doing it all over again.

Monday, Jan 28 at 1:56 PM chris wrote ...

Unfortunately that is how this society works. The excecs from big companies do pad there pockets with incentives. That is why we as a society tell our kids, go to college. They spent the time and money to get where they are. Do you think they will take a pay cut to save an hourly workers job. Keep dreaming. Get an education and you don't have to worry as much about job security. I know we need hourly workers, but this situation comes with the territory every time we have a recession.

Monday, Jan 28 at 1:51 PM Anonymous wrote ...

Unfortunately, the RV Industry can be and typically is a very cut-throat industry for the normal hourly worker. While there can be some good money in it, there is no respect for workers and they are just another number. Sorry, that is what I learned while working at one. Worked for the same place three times, and they screwed me over every time on wages and/or benefits both. Pretty bad. They are not all like that, but it does seem to be a pattern.

Monday, Jan 28 at 1:26 PM anonymous wrote ...

It is true, the Travel Supreme camp pads their exec.s pockets quite heavily, I know them personally. There's a lot of dead weight there. I don't believe they will pull out of this one due to mismanagement.

Monday, Jan 28 at 12:16 PM anonymous wrote ...

God have mercy on the families affected by the slow-down. Please keep praying for relief.

Monday, Jan 28 at 11:27 AM Julie wrote ...

I find it so sad when people like Anonymous feel they need to spread untruths about things they know NOTHING about. I also do completed unit invoicing for Monaco and believe me we did more then 12 units in December.Also how dare you make statements about we only layed off injured employees. Do you work in our Human Resource dept and have information that nobody else has. Shame on you for spreading false rumors. Know your facts before you speak.

Monday, Jan 28 at 10:15 AM Dawn wrote ...

I do the invoicing for completed coaches at Monaco Coach and I can vouch that we did in fact sell more than 12 units in December. Please know what you're talking about before you start spewing false numbers.

Monday, Jan 28 at 8:54 AM unknown wrote ...

it's not just the rv industries. alot of factories out there laying off. and it does not look good.

Monday, Jan 28 at 7:13 AM E wrote ...

Thank you WSBT for telling the truth about Travel Supreme. Anyone reading the article last week in a local newspaper using quotes from Wakarusa business men had Travel Supreme dead and buried. Had they had the sense not to open their mouths until they talked to the company they would have known that production was starting up again today. Having grown up in Wakarusa I know the town operates on gossip. So people get the truth before opening your mouth.

Monday, Jan 28 at 6:41 AM Anonymous wrote ...

Monaco only sold 12 units in all of December from my understanding, that is not even a day of production. If the industry thinks it will pick up in the spring then why did Monaco say this is a permanent layoff because of restructuring? From what I have seen they have seen most of the workers that were permanently laid off are people that have been injured on the job at Monaco that can't possibly find another job because of their injury or injuries.

Monday, Jan 28 at 12:51 AM Just Me... wrote ...

What about it WSBT... I sent a previous comment..I'll try again.Monaco,down approx.250 including the "temps".Newmar down 20%more from an already 4 day week now a 3day. Forest River Glavel off this week...then? Cardinal Division 4 days at 8, and unsure.. Wildcat plant, 5 days 12 coaches a day, and maybe going up...Skyline county rd. 15,6 a day maybe, and unsure...what would they do, fire me? Unemployment will pay better...anymore the state of Indiana would be more honest...LOL!

Monday, Jan 28 at 12:10 AM Just Me... wrote ...

Monaco, Forest River, Travel Supreme, Newmar,Heartland, are we to hear the truth now, or just when you tell us to hit the street? Many of us seem to care more about our company than our company care's about us...we are getting tired of being lied to...and "left out of the loop"...after all, we are the ones helping you to make the stacks of your dollars for our stacks of penny's(in comparison).I for one think some honesty over just how bad it is would help us to plan for our familys well being..

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