Yard sale stirs up more drama in Roseland

by Dustin Grove (grove@wsbt.com)

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Former town council members David and Dorothy Snyder have advertised and posted fliers for a town-wide yard sale and festival to be held in June

Former town council members David and Dorothy Snyder have advertised and posted fliers for a town-wide yard sale and festival to be held in June. (WSBT photo)

By WSBT News1

ROSELAND — Small town politics are once again causing big drama in Roseland. And this time, it's all over a yard sale.

Former town council members David and Dorothy Snyder say they’re being harassed by the current town council in their effort to hold a town-wide yard sale and festival in June. They’ve advertised the event and sent fliers to neighbors, but town council member Ted Penn said the Snyders need to go through the town board to proceed.

“There must be permits, liability coverage, all kinds of consideration,” said Penn. “I find nothing wrong with it (a town-wide yard sale) but like anyone whether it be you or me, there must be permits there must be town approval for something that’s town-wide.”

Town attorney Michael Lipsky sent a letter to the Snyders telling them the needed to “contact the Clerk-Treasurer’s office to obtain the necessary permits and/or paperwork … failure to abide by town code and continue this course of action may result in penalties and or fines being assessed against you.”

As a board member, David Snyder also served as zoning commissioner, overseeing permits and code enforcement. The Snyders say they aren’t using public property for their sale so they don’t need permission from the town.

“I’m very offended that this town council is spending money on town attorneys sending people letters when (we’re) trying to do people good,” said Dorothy Snyder. “A lot of people like yard sales, a lot of people like to come to yard sales. That’s all we’re doing.”

Thursday, May 22 at 1:42 PM Anonymous wrote ...

It is officially time for South Bend to annex Roseland.

Thursday, May 22 at 8:20 AM Over it wrote ...

I'm over the Snide--ers. They are worthless white trash who feed off other's pain. I've seen smarter cats.

Thursday, May 22 at 7:47 AM Dudley Dooright wrote ...

poeple dunt no how too spel becuz they our idyuts

Thursday, May 22 at 7:18 AM Gracie wrote ...

Learn how to spell, people.

Monday, May 19 at 5:31 PM Anonymous wrote ...

Roseland has had town wide yard sales for years. So why would anybody have a problem with that?

Monday, May 19 at 4:08 PM Informed wrote ...

For one, Ted Penn is no longer in charge of the town ordinances. Two, he DID have a permit posted on his front window, so once again, get your facts straight before you speak!! Thank you.

Friday, May 16 at 8:53 PM Anonymous wrote ...

Hum I find it funny Tedd Penn enforces the codes but FAILS to follow them (i.e. when doing construction you not only have to file a permit for it BUT must also POST that permit. Tedd Penn removed his front steps 3 weeks ago and has yet to post a building permit in the windows proving himself to be in compliance of the laws. DO HAS THE PREACHER SAYS NOT HAS HE DOES!!!

Wednesday, May 14 at 7:05 PM T Gaskill wrote ...

Anyone know what the child support laws are in Michigan? I would be interested in hearing what they are.

Wednesday, May 14 at 6:35 PM owl33 wrote ...

Quit giving these folks press time

Wednesday, May 14 at 3:05 PM Gary N. Ginger wrote ...

To be fair, it's only drama. In inner cities it's drive by shootings, illegitimate children, robberies...

Wednesday, May 14 at 2:58 PM MI Resident wrote ...

Where in MI are they moving to? This is the last thing that MI needs! We have enought trouble here as it is!

Wednesday, May 14 at 1:49 PM charlie wrote ...

Even though the Snyder children are not getting support money, they have to be in a better place with better people to care for them. And where is the law? A citizen like me would be cought up in a in a myriad of legal issues if I tried to pull this kind of crap on my town and neighbors.

Wednesday, May 14 at 11:48 AM Rosie Palms wrote ...

Anonymous is a big SISSY

Wednesday, May 14 at 8:41 AM South Bend.... wrote ...

I do believe there running out of money so they need to sell things, for the next episode of Jerry Springer, thats a good one.. Go to work and pay child support like the rest of the people!! Infact go find a new job and town to live in, your a disgrace around here, try a big Town so they can drown you!!! Rules are made for everyone including the Snyders!!!! Sell your house Snyder, that's next for child support!!

Wednesday, May 14 at 1:53 AM Sigh wrote ...

Can't we just get an angry mob with torches together and run 'em all outta town? Hey - whatta you all doin Friday night?

Tuesday, May 13 at 11:20 PM Tip wrote ...

Brian should know that the city of South Bend cannot annex another incorporated town or city.The police donot just set at service station they patrol the area from Douglas to Cleveland and from the toll road on the west to Juniper on the east with the exceptionn of property owned by N.D. they also assist the county,State,and other area law agencies.Roseland like Indian Village are there own incorpations.

Tuesday, May 13 at 9:52 PM Todd wrote ...

Having Fun...what are you talking about? They are not being opressed. Most towns require a permit if you want to hold a festival. The Snyder's want do hold a community garage sale and festival, they need to get a permit like anybody else. Plain and simple.

Tuesday, May 13 at 9:45 PM Anonymous wrote ...

I heard them there Penns ain't much better!

Tuesday, May 13 at 9:10 PM Ha! ha! wrote ...

So what's up for grabs? Ole Doty and Ole' man Snyder selling off their souls to the devil to pay his child support? Ahhhh - nevermind - I'm pretty sure they already pawned those!

Tuesday, May 13 at 8:53 PM Anonymous wrote ...

WSBT - Wake UP - You have a very good news program. The only one I care to watch anymore. Stop pandering to these fools and running to their home each time THEY feel they have something newsworthy to say. This is yet again another way for both of the Snyders to manipulate the system and cause further problems for the town, who no longer wants to admit that either were on the council. The current council sounds like they want change, please let that happen so the SHINANIGANS may cease.

Tuesday, May 13 at 6:48 PM Sigh wrote ...

I feel sorry for the citizens of Roseland. What an embarrasement. They have their very own Jerry Springer show segment which airs on the local news on a regular basis. It's just as annoying as the news people who still mispronounce Pulaski as pulask-eye.Is this southern Indiana? It's shaw lookin' like it yall...

Tuesday, May 13 at 6:32 PM To: Having Fun & Still Messed Up wrote ...

There are two sides to every story.Have YOU talked to this "friend"? Do YOU know all the facts? You are right about the law, but wrong about the morality of the council. Law abiding citizens are being opressed by this government. Be it by personal vendetta or stupidity. Roseland is making the Rorschach test out of the Codebook...What do you think that sentence means??? Don't Know?Well just skip a few pages to find the answer, or make up a new ordinance That is the truth if you can handle it.

Tuesday, May 13 at 4:53 PM Trish from Niles wrote ...

Don't even think about the Snyder's moving too Michigan.We don't want any of their garbage coming to our state.We hear enough of it from that side of the border.They need to pack up and move far away. as far away as they can go. Maybe noone will know about all the crap they have started and kept going. They are the laughing stock of Michiana.

Tuesday, May 13 at 4:40 PM Patti from Niles wrote ...

Can't the Snyder's do anything without causing a ruckus.I am in agreement with most of Michiana residents.I am sick of hearing about them and all their problems.Grow up, get real jobs and pay your child support like every other red blooded american has to. And for god's sake stay out of trouble.

Tuesday, May 13 at 3:08 PM carla wrote ...

used to live in the general area. i come back each yr and i will be in the areathe 7th of jun and woud go to a town wide yard sale . i would enjoy it dispite the petty foolishness that is shown in the area. i see this whole thing as a tit for tat have been to many ares town sales and never heard of such a thing as ins and permits that alone puts a big black mark on roseland two sides that fight like step brothersand sisters think about your town

Tuesday, May 13 at 2:13 PM Illiad wrote ...

Methinks it's time for Dorothy and her counterpart to return to OZ!!

Tuesday, May 13 at 2:00 PM Outsider wrote ...

The Sniders Part VXIIII...

Tuesday, May 13 at 1:50 PM Rick wrote ...

It took me 8 years of living here to figure out what exactly Roseland was. I just refer to it as the north side of SB. Sorry SB residents for putting you with these people.

Tuesday, May 13 at 1:46 PM SB wrote ...

WOW!!!! I didn't know David Snyder has a body part besides his mouth that could talk!!

Tuesday, May 13 at 1:34 PM j wrote ...

why don't you two just pack up and leave town??? you would make so many people so happy on so many levels. actually, you should both be locked up somewhere! you'd probably just steal the money anyway! nothing you two do is for anyone's benefit but your own. it certainly doesn't benefit your children......

Tuesday, May 13 at 1:23 PM Anonymous wrote ...

What kind of yard sale? A BARNYARD sale?

Tuesday, May 13 at 12:55 PM mish 46 wrote ...

this is not just a yard sale-it's also a festival which does need permits-did anyone notice dorthys sign? would you like to be an officer in roselands community association? what are they trying to do now? watch them-watch them real close- a storm is a brewin'-you have been warned

Tuesday, May 13 at 12:51 PM Slick Willy wrote ...

What the Synder's did in their personal lives had nothing to do with their political lives. Man they sure got a raw deal!

Tuesday, May 13 at 12:11 PM Brian wrote ...

It's cute that Roseland has a "town council", when it's nothing more then a busy South Bend intersection with a gas station that attracts do-nothing-cops who hang out at the station and stare blankly at the gas station customers, while puffing their chests out and patting each other on their backs. That basically sums up "The Town of Roseland". Who can I talk to to get SB to officially annex "Roseland" so these people will finally shut up about their "town council"?

Tuesday, May 13 at 12:00 PM Frosty wrote ...

Once again we have the Dave and Dorothy show, or as it was known on the big screen "Dumb and Dumber"!! They should be IN the circus, not having one...Yikes!!!!

Tuesday, May 13 at 11:50 AM CG wrote ...

Dorothy - do you realize how stupid your comment was about the potholes? The reason the town can't fill them is because of you ignorant husband. Anonymous is abosolutely right, because of David's actions of selling the town's maintenance equipment (and where did that money go?) they don't have the means to take care of the roads, pick up yard waste or plow the streets. It's because of both of you and Gridley that the town is facing the financial situation that it is in.

Tuesday, May 13 at 11:36 AM To Town Is Still Messed Up wrote ...

You better get the right information from your "friend" that lives next door to the current council member - they obviously haven't told you the whole story.

Tuesday, May 13 at 11:33 AM To Town Is Still Messed Up wrote ...

You better get the right information from your "friend" that lives next door to the current council member - they obviously haven't told you the whole story. Know what you're talking about before you try to comment on it.

Tuesday, May 13 at 11:27 AM DJ wrote ...

Dorothy and David were a disgrace,.. but I think the new ones in charge and no better! Admit it people Roseland is HillBillyville!

Tuesday, May 13 at 11:25 AM Anonymous wrote ...

geeze, I have an idea, why don't all you busy bodies get together and have a yard sale or sale lemonade so you can pay the child support you are so worried about, Love thy neighbor!!

Tuesday, May 13 at 11:03 AM Linda wrote ...

I read all the posts and had a really good laugh. Some of you are really hilarious. Dave & Dorothy stories feel like been there done that stuff. It isn't even interesting anymore but I do so love the comments.

Tuesday, May 13 at 10:36 AM R. wrote ...

I think the Snyders love to stir up DRAMA! Does anyone in Roseland even like these people? Hopefully they are selling things to pay for back due child support and so they move away because I am tired of hearing about them!

Tuesday, May 13 at 10:14 AM Kristin wrote ...

you guys that are worried about the spelling are so funny to me...you have nothing to say about the topic so you criticize others on spelling?? get a life!!

Tuesday, May 13 at 10:13 AM Karen wrote ...

This spelling issue is annoying - who cares if something is not spelled correctly ? If that is all you have to say is "Learn to spell" then keep your hands off the keyboard !!!!!!

Tuesday, May 13 at 10:11 AM Anonymous wrote ...

The Snyders comment about not even filling potholes. Well did they forget they sold all the maintenance equipment at an auction and oops that money disappeared too. Maybe the could donate their proceeds and fill the potholes since they are the reason the town is in its current financial state.

Tuesday, May 13 at 10:03 AM Having Fun wrote ...

Businesses have to have licenses in order to operate and permits if they do a certain type of work. If they are not up "to code" or "within the law," then Roseland has every right to pursue those who are not in compliance. It's called the law. And those fees help pay for some of the services in Roseland. Case closed.

Tuesday, May 13 at 9:48 AM Anonymous wrote ...

to all those people who think some of us can't spell... i'm sure you all are perfect human beings who NEVER, NEVER, NEVER misspelled a word in their entire lifetime... RIGHT? GET OVER IT! Geez people. There are worse things in life---going after people who can't spell... such sad lives you all live.

Tuesday, May 13 at 9:23 AM T Gaskill wrote ...

Does a yard sale fall along the same line as a lemonade stand? If it doesn't I might have to set one up by the Snyder's house during the sale. I could probably make a lot of money with all the dry mouths from people yelling obscenities at them. Maybe have a curse jar outside the Snyder's house. That could pay for the Dave's child support.

Tuesday, May 13 at 9:03 AM Town Is Still Messed Up wrote ...

Rightly say what you want about Snyders. The town is still on a power play. The current town council is going after all businesses who have not registered with the city no matter where they are. If you are running a business out of your home then you can be shut down by the TC for zoning/license. My friend who lives next to a current council member can no longer operate their business from their home because Roseland sued them to shut them down. That's the CURRENT town council. Freedom gone!

Tuesday, May 13 at 7:38 AM Rose wrote ...

Roseland is the town that never grew up thanks to the Snyders! Has anyone thought about getting them profressional help. Why don't they put their energy into something like helping the poor, elderly, and helpless.

Tuesday, May 13 at 4:29 AM South Bend Home owner wrote ...

Anon and Todd why don't you two hold a spelling bee during the Snyder's yard sale to help people like me, who went to Penn, spell! Thanx! Because I am sure I am not as successful as you or the Snyders! good times.

Tuesday, May 13 at 2:38 AM Tom wrote ...

I thought the Snyders were moving to Michigan? Why are they organizing something in Roseland when they are leaving town. Besides, Who in their right mind would participate if the Snyders are the ones organizing this event. I'm just curious how much of a cut are the Snyders expecting from each exhibitor involved in this event????

Tuesday, May 13 at 12:04 AM A new Goodwill contributor wrote ...

Of the three charitable organizations, Salvation Army, Goodwill and St. Vincents I am shocked at the lack of Christian values being demonstrated. Theft is not excusable but those pants were donated to be used by someone who needed them and obviously this man did. Maybe he was too proud to ask for help, so he made a poor choice but I think he has been punished enough being mocked for not being a shrewd thief in a place where you would expect compassion to be foremost. I'm through donating to them

Monday, May 12 at 11:53 PM SS wrote ...

Dear Snyders, Are ya kidding me? This is how you want your community to feel about you? You are famous as the biggest pain in the... in local history. Give it a rest. It reminds me of people on the Springer show...You lokk like idiots, but hey, your on TV.

Monday, May 12 at 11:48 PM Cassie wrote ...

WSBT when will you stop giving these two free publicity. I hope Mike Dvorak is paying attention so they can confiscate any $$ made. Of course David wont have made any again stupid Dorothy will take the hit. please stop giving these people attention....

Monday, May 12 at 10:46 PM Todd wrote ...

I feel your pain Anon. I think spelling is not taught in this area. The Penn students I know are horrible at spelling and grammar.

Monday, May 12 at 10:25 PM scott wrote ...

How this: Tribune gives each subscriber $5 for each subsequent story regarding the Snyders.This will prevent the newspaper from running such useless stories. OR we can all contribute $5 to the Snyder "For the Love of God-GO AWAY" Fund.

Monday, May 12 at 10:06 PM laughing wrote ...

I can only laugh at you Syders, no shame for yourself and it's sooo sad!

Monday, May 12 at 9:53 PM anon wrote ...

Good God people..learn how to spell..

Monday, May 12 at 9:07 PM Joe wrote ...

Dear Roseland, Please Keep the Snyders and all of their hokeyness to yourselves. Thanks. Signed

Monday, May 12 at 8:42 PM Anonymous wrote ...

I hope the yard sale goes to fund those poor kids in texas---the synder's should be ashamed of themselves!

Monday, May 12 at 7:55 PM Carrie wrote ...

Sorry but Roseland in now a joke because of these two. I can't believe they are so clueless on how they act. I so Love South Bend!!

Monday, May 12 at 7:15 PM Ed wrote ...

by the way Speed 1953 you're right not all small towns require permits and insurance however to use the Town's name and collect money (even donations)to register all towns will require written consent and registration with the town at the very least. These 2 dip sticks have done neither.

Monday, May 12 at 7:02 PM Kathy from Lakeville wrote ...

Ted, I agree that is just what the $5.00 DONATION (HA HA) is for. He won't get a real job so he wants the town to help him out.

Monday, May 12 at 6:07 PM eddy wrote ...

Please just stop and grow up. Seriously if I was a resident I would sell my house and move far away from these idiots.

Monday, May 12 at 6:04 PM Poor Baby Snyder wrote ...

here we go again he is the one who oversees permits..but didn't think he needed on..Gee, he had children and didn't think he need to pay support. Time to grow up Davie..

Monday, May 12 at 6:02 PM Da Moose wrote ...

Oh Let Dave Have His Yard Sale. He Has Chile Support To Pay!!!!

Monday, May 12 at 5:46 PM Anonymous wrote ...

The Snyders need to get over the fact that the world does not revolve around them. They still seam to be on a kick that they have supreme say in matters. A town wide yard sale is something that is decided upon by the town counsel and the last time I looked, they weren't on the counsel anymore.

Monday, May 12 at 5:45 PM Bill wrote ...

This is just another ploy by the Sniders to thumb there noses at the Roseland town board that they know they need a permit but they cannot stand not having there names in the news.Snider had told people when he was on the board that they needed a permit he thinks his wife and him are above the rules,sence the tried to be the rulers of Roseland when in office.

Monday, May 12 at 5:43 PM mishawaka wrote ...

any thing to start prob

Monday, May 12 at 5:39 PM Speed1953 wrote ...

Yikes ! Tell ALL the "little communities" out there that they need INSURANCE and PERMITS to hold a town-wide yard sale and MOST of the town officials will tell you to take a flying leap at the Moon ! There is nothing, NOTHING, more suitable than for a small town to hold a Town Wide Yard Sale....everyone benefits....the restaurants who open for breakfast benefit, the people who set up in their yards benefit, the people who get to RENT space at a local park-area, benefit and us BARGAIN hunters !

Monday, May 12 at 5:28 PM Joe wrote ...

Nothing In roseland I want!!Dont care.

Monday, May 12 at 5:08 PM to the snyders wrote ...

i guess your finding out that what goes around comes around!! You shouldnt have been such pr??ks when you were in office,kinda like the mess you created over a sign ordinance!

Monday, May 12 at 4:47 PM Ted wrote ...

It's probably to raise funds for David's child support.

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