Firefighters say Granger fire shows danger in new home construction

by Samuel King (king@wsbt.com)

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Fire danger in newly built homes

Harris Township Fire Chief John Vance showed WSBT News that in many newly built homes pieces of wood melted together are used instead of solid wood beams. He says this allows the fire to spread more quickly. (WSBT photo)

By Tiffany Griffin

GRANGER — Firefighters say a recent fire in Granger shows the danger in some newly built homes. The fire heavily damaged a house in the Saddlebrook subdivision in Granger on May 10. Firefighters say it spread so quickly, they had to get out of the house and fight it from outside.

Harris Township Fire Chief John Vance says soon after crews arrived, they ran into problems. He told WSBT News a number of new homes, like the one that burned, have void or empty spaces that are sealed off and can allow a fire to get out of control.

"There was a large area involved, it went over 10 minutes, at which time it was an indication to us that we were not making any progress," Vance said. "The fire was indeed getting worse and started to break through the roof. So at that time, our incident commander made a great call and evacuated the building."

Vance says other modern building techniques can make fighting fires hazardous.

"Instead of a solid wood beam, this beam is actually pieces of wood melted together," Vance showed WSBT News, holding a beam to illustrate his point. "The glue starts to melt out of this at 400 degrees. We don't have a lot of time once this is on fire. It rapidly spreads."

Homeowners like Randy Schultz of Granger told WSBT News those concerns are news to them.

"This is the first time I've heard that and obviously it's a little disconcerting, a little bit," Schultz said.

He said he does what he can to make his house safe.

"You can't tear the house down and rebuild it," he said. "So you just have to take every precaution you can take. Smoke detectors in the proper rooms and on every floor. And just do the normal things you're supposed to do to prevent fires."

Vance says it's important fire departments spread the word about the dangers.

"The builders aren't purposely trying to do this to firefighters. But it's important for the community to know that we're really under the gun when we arrive at a fire," he said.

Industry representatives have said these techniques or lightweight construction products pose no extra risk when it comes to fire or building collapse than when using traditional methods.

Besides smoke detectors, Vance recommends homeowners buy residential sprinkler systems or tie in a smoke alarm to their security system. He also recommends people call 911 as soon as they think there's a fire in their home, because response times are critical.

Wednesday, May 21 at 10:51 PM A house about to fall part wrote ...

handyman--- some contractors take short cuts and do inferior work. its the folks who move into those homes that have to pay the costs to fix the prefabbed screw ups. inferior work and parts led to the sinking of the titantic. remember that. it's all fun and games until you find out that your house (while meets codes), meets the bare minimums despite assurances to the contrary. get real mr handyman. there's a small portion of dishonest home builders out there who screw their customers.

Wednesday, May 21 at 5:24 PM Bob wrote ...

I find it interesting that now they are saying the prefab stuff is inferior! When I built my home in 2005, I wanted REAL floor joists and was assured these new kind were structurally better. Guess I'll believe my own gut instincts from now on!

Wednesday, May 21 at 4:10 PM hillery wrote ...

to the Handyman...it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that cheap crap doesn't last...get real

Wednesday, May 21 at 1:12 PM Annon wrote ...

And, btw, great job to Chief Vance for finally exposing some of the hazards we face everyday to the public! The same hazards "the industry" doesn't want anyone to realize. And thank you to WSBT for writing this story, true, it may not change anything, but the people are now aware of what we face everyday.

Wednesday, May 21 at 1:08 PM Annon wrote ...

"Industry representatives have said these techniques or lightweight construction products pose no extra risk when it comes to fire or building collapse than when using traditional methods." I beg to differ! I am a ff and 2 years ago an entire trussed roof collapsed on me and my partner during a fire in a lightweight house! You're telling me that 2x3 truss construction and TGI floor trusses are no different than 2x6 or 2x8 hardwood rafters or floor joists? Get real! I have been there, you haven't

Wednesday, May 21 at 12:15 PM Snickers wrote ...

No, the cat took off. Didn't you hear?

Wednesday, May 21 at 12:10 PM sheesh wrote ...

I want to know where all of the people who were blaming the homeowner for this fire went. Cat got your tongue?

Wednesday, May 21 at 10:00 AM T Gaskill wrote ...

I agree that the owner needs to inform themselves a lot before building but what about the contractor? They have an obligation to build a home that is safe and continue to be safe and functional for years. Where does their obligation end?

Wednesday, May 21 at 8:08 AM T Gaskill wrote ...

The new products they have out there are great, as long they are used right. Unfortunately many builders don't go by the correct instructions on how to use them. Kind of like the septic systems that were built in Granger years ago. Many owners there have had to replace them after since they just weren't built to last.

Wednesday, May 21 at 7:58 AM BETTER BUILDERS!! wrote ...

Bottom line, these products are cheaper for the low end builder to make more money!! So get a better more knowledgeable builder and get MORE EDUACATED YOURSELF WHEN BUILDING!!! ASK THESE QUESTIONS WHEN BUILDING!!! DON'T ALWAYS WORRY ABOUT SAVING EVERY PENNY!! LIVES COULD BE AT STAKE EVEN YOUR OWN, THINK IF THESE PEOPLE WERE ASLEEP IN THE HOME AT THE TIME!! ALL BECAUSE A CHEAP BUILDER WANTED TO MAKE MORE MONEY FOR HIMSELF! USE STEAL BEAMS!! THEY MAY COST MORE BUT OH WELL!

Tuesday, May 20 at 11:03 PM handyman wrote ...

Hillary, I am assuming that you have no idea how the construction process works in a home. If this were truely a problem then it wouldn't be allowed by local code inspector's. Homes should have what is known as fireblocking in the basement which is any area of the basement where say a PVC line or a copper water line goes thru the floor into the main level of the house this should be sealed with fire caulk or stuffed with loose insulation. If this is not doen it acts as a chimney in a fire.

Tuesday, May 20 at 9:45 PM hillery wrote ...

very interesting....let's build it cheaper, tripple the return..heck with the buyer. and people paying these prices think they are getting a good home...Look for an older home if you are looking in Granger. That would seem to be a SAFER bet. There is a lot to be said about "they don't build them like they used to".

Tuesday, May 20 at 9:11 PM County FF wrote ...

Chief Vance makes excellent points, however the beat will just go on. Methods will continue, and we will continue to do what we do. Then when they burn down the armchair quarterbacks will want to know why. These are the same who scream when we need funding for apparatus or personnel. There's the cake and then there's eating it.

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