UPDATE: 2 seriously injured in 7-vehicle accident in Mishawakaby Kelli Cheatham (kcheatham@wsbt.com)
Seven cars were involved in an accident at Edison and Hickory roads in Mishawaka on Tuesday, August 26, 2008. (WSBT Photo) MISHAWAKA — A busy intersection was shut down Tuesday after a serious accident sent two people to the hospital. Seven cars were involved in the accident that shut down Hickory and Edison roads. Multimedia It happened around 10 a.m., and police believe a driver’s medical condition may be to blame. "The noise from it was indescribable,” said Sonny Camparone, who witnessed the crash. “I could hear every bit of it where the cars were hitting together like bumper cars." “I just saw the parts flying,” added Javier Jimenez. Police say the female driver of a Volkswagen Passat, identified as 53-year-old Judith Traynor of South Bend, was northbound on Hickory when she sideswiped a minivan near Catalpa Drive. The Volkswagen continued at an excessive rate of speed — witnesses estimate she was going 85-90 mph — and rear-ended another vehicle in a line of three that were stopped at the light at Hickory and Edison roads. The Volkswagen careened off and hit an Audi that was turning left onto Hickory from Edison and then another car that was stopped at the light. Witnesses say the impact sent one of the vehicles — an SUV — flying through the air. “It looked as though it was a wreck that would take place on the interstate or at a high speed road; not something that would take place at the corner of Hickory and Edison,” said Jeff Heeter in the aftermath. “It was hectic, it was crazy,” Jimenez said. Witnesses stood by helplessly. “Everybody kind of ran out here to see what they could do,” Camparone explained. “They just kind of stopped dead in their tracks when they saw how bad it was.” “We couldn't really do anything but sit there and wait for help to come,” said Jimenez. City workers and volunteers worked for hours re-routing traffic around the crash through the movie theater parking lot and other local businesses. Some of the drivers involved in the crash walked away, but others weren’t so lucky. “I think the biggest concern was the lady that caused the accident,” Heeter said. “She was kind of slumped over the steering wheel,” Camparone added. Traynor is believed to have suffered a heart attack or other medical condition that led to the crash. She remains in critical condition at a local hospital. Robert Schramm, 36, of South Bend was driving the vehicle that was rear-ended at the intersection of Hickory and Edison. He received life-threatening injuries and remains in critical condition. No other serious injuries were reported. The Fatal Alcohol Crash Team is investigating. Saturday, Aug 30 at 7:29 AM Glossy wrote ...How are the two people who were injured doing? Last word was both of them were in ICU fighting for their lives and now...are they still? Friday, Aug 29 at 11:23 AM A Concerned (AND Literate) Person wrote ...The bottom line is that the people involved in this accident have suffered immeasurably, and my heart goes out to all those impacted. That being said, I am absolutely horrified at the number of people who've posted something here but can’t put together a simple and coherent sentence. Forget about using proper grammar, spelling and word tense (no vs. know, prolly?), I’d settle for understanding what you’re trying to say. Perhaps you should spend more time becoming literate! Thursday, Aug 28 at 8:17 AM DA wrote ...BOB IS AND VERY GOOD MAN AND FATHER AND OUR PRAYERS AND GOING OUT TO HIS FAMILY Thursday, Aug 28 at 3:08 AM renee wrote ...my prayers go out to all involved Wednesday, Aug 27 at 11:38 PM Anonymous wrote ...my prayers go to Judy and Bob.God will make a way where there seems to be no way. Wednesday, Aug 27 at 9:28 PM Anonymous wrote ...To the moron who wrote that if you have a health condition, you shouldn't drive. People can have a stroke at any time. A heart attack is similar. Often there is no warning. How do you prevent this? Perhaps those who aren't very smart (I'm referring to you), shouldn't be allowed to drive. I consider that a medical condition. Wednesday, Aug 27 at 7:07 PM ANONYMOUS wrote ...I THINK IF YOU HAVE A MEDICAL CONDITION YOU SHOULD NOT DRIVE AT ALL LOOK AT WHAT HAPPEN HERE. MY PRAYERS GO OUT TO THE FAMILY THAT WAS INVOLVED. I HOPE EVERY ONE COME OUT OK. THERE NEEDS TO BE A LAW IF YOU HAVE A HEALTH CONDITION YOU CANT DRIVE. Wednesday, Aug 27 at 6:16 PM Anonymous wrote ...Linda thank you for letting us know the heart attack is what caused the accident. Just like few others have let us know. 1 being the article above all of these comments. Wednesday, Aug 27 at 5:09 PM shocked by rude people.... wrote ...I have a close friend who knows this woman personally, and I just hope she didn't read all these stupid comments people have left about this story...why do people choose to take the focus of what is important--people's lives and family members who are going through a very hard time right now. Go find your sick amusement somewhere else!! Wednesday, Aug 27 at 3:22 PM anonymous wrote ...My prayers are with all the people involved and their families. Wednesday, Aug 27 at 1:57 PM so sad wrote ...This is a horrible thing that happened to the people involved especially and the people who witnesses it and wanted to help, so just stop all the commenting and just PRAY for all the people involved. Wednesday, Aug 27 at 1:51 PM am wrote ...i feel bad of what happend a heart attack can happen any time and thats scary because we have no warning sign for it. if people know they got heart problems or any kind of medication please take your meds.my friends uncle died from a heart attack because he stoped taking his medication. we all need to be defensive drivers just because we have a green light does not mean the other person is going to stop for the red light. drivers these days dont pay attention and they dont care. Wednesday, Aug 27 at 1:44 PM Caring wrote ...Robin our prayers are with you and Bob. Please remember there are two people fighting for their lives. This was truly an accident. Lives are forever changed due to this. Wednesday, Aug 27 at 10:36 AM Grammar cop wrote ...4:59 AM Hello Over Here -- I have no clue, whatsoever, what you are tyring to say. Can you please try again, in English, if possible? Wednesday, Aug 27 at 10:10 AM Anonymous wrote ...Well, at least one of them was insured. Wednesday, Aug 27 at 8:04 AM Linda wrote ...To all you people who made fun of this incident I thought you might like to know she had a heart attack. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU WHO MADE NASTY COMMENTS. Wednesday, Aug 27 at 7:35 AM GLS MISHAAWAKA wrote ...GET WELL JUDY AND BOB!! MY PRAYERS ARE OUT FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY!!! Wednesday, Aug 27 at 4:59 AM Hello Over Here wrote ...To Dirt Bag I would'nt wont you to take care of me it seems like you are frustrated and I thought people medical conditions was PRIVATE how do everybody no what caused theres no privacy no where in INDIANA trust me I no especial people medical reports thats ashame.WSBT you need to open a local talk show and get the people on the air I no it will be a good program lets see how many so call people come out the wood work then.Soon the price is going to increase on computers and on line services Wednesday, Aug 27 at 4:40 AM Hikory-Edison Driver wrote ...This was awful. I hope that "Uncle Sam" is alert for this kind of stuff when he's out there come tax-time. He's a great guy. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 11:52 PM Mel wrote ...My prayers go out to Judy and Bob, and anyone else that was injured in this accident. I wish you all a speedy recovery. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 11:29 PM RJ wrote ...As a fellow claims adjuster, it really hits home to see a colegue involved in such a serious accident. Everyone needs to keep in mind that there is a reason they call it an accident. In this case it was a medical condition that was the cause. Im sure she had little to no warning as to what was happening in her body at time. Whats most important is that all parties recover from this serious accident. Cars can be fixed or replaced, lives cant. We need to keep all parties in our prayers. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 11:06 PM Anonymous wrote ...Stop worrying about yelling at the first people to respond. Just pray for the victims and their families! Tuesday, Aug 26 at 10:50 PM Dave wrote ...My prayers go out to everyone. I worked with Bob, he's a great guy and loving father. I was in bob's shoes nearly a year ago and know what a long road he has ahead of him, praying he makes it. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 10:25 PM Anonymous wrote ...Anonymous @655... thank you for clarifying that it was due to a (heart attack).. no one knew... i mean since they clearly put it in the story. But thanks! Tuesday, Aug 26 at 10:20 PM Anonymous wrote ...I am Judy's aunt. Judy had a massive heart attack and we are frightened and very very concerned that she will not make it. She did not deliberately go through the red light. It's obvious she lost control due to a heart attack. I am shocked that people jump to conclusion without the facts.Judy is a very loving,caring,mother and daughter and sister to a very loving family.Our prayers are for her and Bob who also is in serious condition as has been related in the news. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 9:39 PM Anonymous wrote ...I have worked with bob and know he is a caring person. He not only needs your prayers but he has a famly that also needs a support system. He has a long recovery ahead of him if he makes it that far. This lady did not do this to be reckless. a medical condition can happen to each and everyone of us at anytime. we just dont know when we will be next. god bless all invloved. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 9:05 PM J wrote ...I want to extend my prayers to both families and hope that they both fully recover. You can tell why we do not have the compassion in this country like we use to, people are to quick to jump to conclusions. May we all have more patience with others and learn to listen. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 9:04 PM Frank wrote ...There, but for the grace of God, go I. Prayers to the families of the injured drivers. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 9:00 PM Anonymous wrote ...This is a tragedy that requires compassion, not cynicism. Thank you to those who wrote genuine comments. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 8:56 PM Fletch wrote ...My family is praying for my friend Judy, and everyone involved in this tragedy. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 8:51 PM ken wrote ...you are in my prayers Tuesday, Aug 26 at 8:37 PM gls wrote ...OK THIS SHOWS HOW STUPID SOME OR MOST PEOPLE IN ST.JOE ARE.. JUDGE OTHERS BEFORE KNOWING THE FACTS... TO THE PPL WHO SAID THE FIRST FEW COMMENTS.. IF THIS WAS UR MO, KID OR DAD WILL YOU SAY SAME THING?? I SAY NO.. GROW UP Tuesday, Aug 26 at 8:10 PM JENN wrote ...I AM PRAYING FOR ALL OF THE FAMILIES INVOLVED IN THIS ACCIDENT. STOP BEING JUDGEMENTAL IT DOES NOT HELP ANYONE INVOLVED IT JUST HURTS THEM, ESPECIALLY WHEN ALL THE FACTS ARE NOT IN YET ON WHAT CAUSED THE ACCIDENT IN THE FIRST PLACE. NO ONE IS PERFECT NOT EVEN THE PEOPLE WHO READ THIS POST ME INCLUDED. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 8:05 PM Anonymous wrote ...Please,only focus on praying for everyone affected in this terrible accident...and I really hope many of you re-read your comments and feel shame. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 7:40 PM Anonymous wrote ...I think its kind of funny how two different people said "they personally know the person driving the car" when one said she had a seizure and the other said she had a heart attack.? I think everyone just needs to pray for the victims and families involved and shut their mouths until the FACTS are revealed. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 7:33 PM you idiotic people wrote ...MY MOTHER AND I KNOW THE DRIVER OF THE PASSAT. GET OFF OF YOUR HIGH HORSES! SHE HAD A HEART ATTACK. YOU SHOULD ALL EAT YOUR WORDS! Tuesday, Aug 26 at 7:33 PM Anonymous wrote ...I think its kind of funny how two people said "they personally know the person driving" when one said she had a heart attack and the other said she had a seizure.? I think everyone should just pray for ALL victims involved, including families, and shut their mouths until THE FACTS are revealed. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 7:19 PM Anonymous is a joke wrote ...The first three comments made 10 IQ points dumber just from reading them Tuesday, Aug 26 at 7:02 PM anonymous wrote ...To anonymous 12:01 Cell phone and starbucks??? Did you get your parents permission before logging into this blog? Grow up! Tuesday, Aug 26 at 6:55 PM Anonymous wrote ...To Anonymous @ 5:28 - I don't think anyone is forgetting about Robert & his family. I personally know the driver that caused this tragic accident (due to having a heart attack) and we all are praying for everyone involved (especially Judy & Robert). Anyone that knows both of these individuals has been affected by this. It does not matter whose injuries are worse...it's not a contest. The reality is that 2 people have life threatening injuries. I just pray they both survive. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 6:49 PM wendy wrote ...i think that people needs to understand that you dont know when this will happen some people have signs some dont so lets be nice and not blame oneperson ever run red lights so wake up people !!!! Tuesday, Aug 26 at 6:14 PM coworker wrote ...I am appalled at the ignorant comments on this story. As a coworker of the injured driver, she is a wonderful, caring, compassionate woman who suffered a heart attack and may not survive. Do any of you think this was purposely done? Instead of wasting energy criticizing people you do not know, pray for her and her family as well as the gentleman in the other car. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 6:07 PM Floyd Morrison wrote ...Are they gone build an underpass sometime soon? This street is so dangerous that so many people got killed already. God only knows how many people are gona be injured before some body builds an underpass. With that may be all pedestrians and other drivers will be safe and secure and when they arrive home they will be able to see their wives and children and not end up in a hospital with broken bones and smashed arms. Would someone tell to build an underpass so we will be safe from drunk drivers. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 5:52 PM Deb wrote ...I do not believe the ignorance of some people. I just read the article and it clearly said she had a medical condition that probably caused this unfortunate accident and whether it was a seizure or heart attack, she had NO control over it and NO warning. I pray for her and her family and all of those that were involved in this terrible accident and we should all remember that at anytime it could be us! Tuesday, Aug 26 at 5:44 PM dduke wrote ...Judy is a loving mother of two, she is an awesome and kind hearted individual. Our prayers go out to all her family and friends at this difficult time. We love you JuJu! Tuesday, Aug 26 at 5:28 PM Anonymous wrote ...Sure its sad what happened to the driver that caused it but let's not forget about Robert and his family. Waiting at a redlight and then out of nowhere gets plowed in to. His injuries are worse then hers. You hearts should go out ot both of the families if you really claim to care that much. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 4:14 PM old friend wrote ...My prayers go out to Judy and her family and the other driver involved! People really need to be more compassionate and forgiving in situations like this. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 4:10 PM mcghee wrote ...Prolly means probably, as in text messages. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 3:44 PM Anonymous wrote ...I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS STORY AS I WORK IN THE PLAZA WHERE IT HAPPENED AND HAVE BEEN STUCK HERE ALL DAY. THE FIRST TWO COMMENTS WERE POSTED BEFORE THE ENTIRE STORY WAS RELEASED-INCLUDING THE PART ABOUT THE MEDICAL CONDITION. LOOKS LIKE WE SHOULD ALL USE THE "STOP AND THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK" MOTO. I WOULD LIKE TO TELL THE FAMILYS THAT I AM PRAYING FOR THEM. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 3:37 PM concerned reader wrote ...I hope that both persons involved will be okay. My thoughts and prayers are with them and their families. It's sad how people can judge others without clearly understanding the severity of the situation. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 3:36 PM FireStorm wrote ...My prays are with the families who are going through this. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 3:27 PM LA wrote ...My husband and I witnessed an accident before where the driver was having a seizure, it was awful! My prayers to all involved. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 3:13 PM anon wrote ...for all of you speculators out there, We know the family and it is confirmed that she had a massive heart attack and is in critical condition. The family is struggling as Judy has not regained consciousness. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 2:56 PM Reader wrote ...I am shocked... SHOCKED that uninformed, judgmental persons "prolly" cause caustic, cynical comments! Tuesday, Aug 26 at 2:51 PM Anonymous wrote ...well apparently you 2 morons didnt read the article then did you it says she may have had amedical condition....DUH!!!! Tuesday, Aug 26 at 2:33 PM Linda wrote ...Aren't the two of you being a little judgmental? Did you read the article at all? It said she may have had a medical condition. Maybe she had a heart attack. Things do happen beyond our control sometimes. Don't you think it would be better to get all the facts before you administer such cruel statements? I doubt either one of you was there. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 2:30 PM me wrote ...Ummm you two below apparently cannot read. It clearly says above she possibly had a medical condition. Don't say things until you read/know the facts. Geez Tuesday, Aug 26 at 2:25 PM Joel wrote ...This had to be horrific to witness. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 2:09 PM Nick wrote ...I see several people run red lights every time I leave my house. Indiana could be a safer place with cameras at intersections to catch irresponsible drivers. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 2:07 PM Anonymous wrote ...maybe u should wait before u cast stones. the article says it might be a medical condition. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 2:06 PM Anonymous wrote ...How can you judge before all the details are known. My wife works at the bank on that corner and she heard that the medical condition was a heart attack. How can you predict that? Tuesday, Aug 26 at 1:59 PM Tom wrote ...Amen on the comments about running a red light. May not have caused this accident but it is amazing that more people are not killed or seriously injured by red light runners. Red lights seem to mean nothing to people around here. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 1:52 PM reader wrote ...wndu reports "Police think the driver may have been driving fast because she was having a seizure or a heart attack..." No exceptions for heart attacks, eh Anonymous? And "u drive me crazy" - what the heck does "prolly" mean? Tuesday, Aug 26 at 1:50 PM Chelsea wrote ...You people don't even know what you are talking about. I know the lady that caused an accident and she had a seizure and blacked out and now her life is at stake. So maybe you people should get all the facts before you start saying things that you don't even know!!!! Tuesday, Aug 26 at 1:50 PM Bartness wrote ...Please read the story, most likely she was suffering from a medical condition...she didn't intentionally run the light. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 1:46 PM Math wrote ...As bad as the driving has been in this town, I hardly ever see anyone run a red light. If you count speeding into a yellow light as the same thing... then yeah I guess. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 1:41 PM craig wrote ...um duh it said medical condyion get the facts first before you type Tuesday, Aug 26 at 1:39 PM To The People wrote ...From my understanding the person hade medical issues Lets not be so quick to judge with your negetive comments Tuesday, Aug 26 at 1:36 PM Dee wrote ...Why do people always criticize when something happens.Can't you juts write I hope they get better or say a prayer for them. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 1:36 PM Anonymous wrote ...I live two blocks from this intersection and I'm amazed there aren't more accidents because too many stupid drivers try to turn left onto Edison from the shopping plazas on the NW and SW corners and also from the theater on the NE corner. The traffic on Edison is too heavy for this. This accident appears to be caused by something else though. I hope everyone pulls through this. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 1:32 PM SDL wrote ...You people with your ignorant BLOGS - keep your mouths and comments to yourself until you know the whole story!! This is a human-being, a respectable working lady with a family -- use your energy to pray for her and her loved ones. Treat her the way you would want to be treated if you were in the hospital on the edge of death - SHAME ON YOU!! Tuesday, Aug 26 at 1:22 PM Lynda wrote ...Until you know the facts keep your comments to yourself. A medical condition is very possible. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 1:20 PM Easy Now wrote ...As much as I hate drivers who insist on talking on their cells (realy pet peave of mine - what did they do before they had cells DHU) this was probably a medical issue. Otherwise I would presume and hope she would have stopped after side swiping a vehicle two blocks earlier. Hope all have a speedy recovery. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 1:17 PM anon. wrote ...If you would read the story it says she may have had a medical condition.Just pray that they pull thru this. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 1:13 PM dave wrote ...I heard there is a good chance it is a medical condition. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 1:12 PM b wrote ...um hello, medical condition! pay attention Tuesday, Aug 26 at 1:11 PM Anonymous wrote ...why do people comment before hearing any facts. Maybe something was physically wrong with this person. Do you really think someone would hit 7 cars within several blocks and be on the cell phone or putting on makeup. Also, can anybody claim they have never made a mistake driving-yes, some mistakes are deadly but most of us are luck our mistakes have not caused harm. NOBODY is a perfect driver-even those who think they are and deny their infractions. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 1:06 PM roy wrote ...Can you read? The article said that the driver may have suffered from a medical condition, causing the accident. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 1:01 PM AM You are a Moron wrote ...Are you serious? First of all why don't you use proper English. Also, you don't know the facts to make such a stupid comment. It sounds like there was a medical condition as the driver was striking cars all down the road. People amaze me. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 12:46 PM Tracy wrote ...Before convicting some one, or assuming something like most of you do with these stories....can't you for once think first - none of us really know what exactly happened - unless we were there. What if this person had a seizure? a diabetic reaction? a heart attack? passed out? We really don't know - so don't assume - because you know what happens when you assume!!! Tuesday, Aug 26 at 12:44 PM Jessica wrote ...Did anybody watch the news on this ? They think the lady that caused this had a medical condition which caused her to drive out of control!! She was in need of medical care, and not putting on makeup or using her cell phone !! She could not help what happened. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 12:39 PM smarter than thou wrote ...2 the 2 Einsteins that said that she was "prolly on her cell phone..." and "another indiana red light runner strikes, if you read you would see that it states that the driver may have had a medical condition causing the accident. Before you jump to conclusions maybe you both should jump into a book and learn to read and write. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 12:36 PM Concerned wrote ...Shame on you and shame on WSBT for allowing these cold hearted comments. This is a tragic day for these families. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 12:35 PM Jen wrote ...It says she may have had a medical condition. It's not like she ran the red light she slammed into other cars waiting at the red light. I pray for everyone involved. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 12:35 PM Me wrote ...Apparently the first two comments didn't read the whole article. It says she may have had a medical condition. Read before responding. My father was a diabetic and if they have an attack, they have no control. Also she may have had a heart attack. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 12:33 PM Anonymous wrote ...cant you people read...she had a medical condition while driving! you dont typically side swipe a car and then plow into the back of another one at high speeds..people fighting for their lives in the hospital and you people want to judge..could have been your mother with a medical condition Tuesday, Aug 26 at 12:33 PM Does anyone know how to read!!! wrote ...She had a Heart attack and ran the red light. It is kind of hard to stop if you are out like a light from a heart attack. You people really need to read the whole story before commenting!!!! Tuesday, Aug 26 at 12:32 PM Driver wrote ...When will ALL drivers realize that they are operating something that can kill someone and requires their TOTAL attention. NO ONE has the skills to operate a motor vehicle AND a cell phone. NO phone call is that important to risk a life. In my mind it is NO DIFFERENT than driving drunk. If you hit me, you better have a lot of insurance. I plan to take everything you own. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 12:29 PM OMG wrote ...u drive me crazy, What is this Prolly? Tuesday, Aug 26 at 12:28 PM concerned wrote ...You all should get the facts before you blab. The report is that the person had a seizure. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 12:24 PM DIRTBAGS!!!! wrote ...So in conclusion all i want to say is, SHUT YOU FREAKING MOUTH ABOUT THINGS YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 12:22 PM DIRTBAGS!!! wrote ...As a local emergency responder i see alot of these accidents, including this one, first hand. You shouldnt be so fast to cast judgement on the reason(s) for the crash. It is not impossible for accidents to happen secondary to a medical condition, be it a heart attack, diabetic emergency, stroke or other sudden illness. believe It or not it happens everyday in this country. This was a very serious accident that required CPR to revive on of the victims. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 12:12 PM Mishawaka resident wrote ...I was there when this had happened. The lady was not on the cell phone. She was having a seizure. Get your facts straight before putting the blame on people. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 12:01 PM Anonymous wrote ...She was probably on her cell phone on her way to starbucks. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 11:41 AM Anonymous wrote ...Another Indiana RED light runner strikes! Running a RED light in Indiana should be a $1000.00 fine, no exceptions or reductions. Indian would be one of the richest states in the union. Tuesday, Aug 26 at 11:19 AM u drive me crazy wrote ...Prolly on her cell phone or doing the makeup as i see them do in morning traffic all the time. Add a comment |
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Wednesday, Sep 3 at 10:59 PM nroll@yahoo.com wrote ...
If you can't say anything nice...then don't say anything at all. I know the Schram family and spoke with Scott's mother today, she is concerned for her son naturally, but also concerned for Judy, the lady who had the heart attack. She and her family are holding no grudges against this woman, why the hell are some of you. As I said, "If you can't say something nice then keep your comments to yourself. Mrs. Schram is praying for her son as well as the other driver, you all should be praying too.