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Tiffany Higginbotham, of Mishawaka, from left, Sarah Jones, and Phillip Williams, both of South Bend, joined about 20 others at a rally on the corner of Main Street and Jefferson Boulevard in South Bend Saturday in support of same sex marriage.

By ED RONCO
Tribune Staff Report

Story Created: Nov 16, 2008 at 5:49 AM EST

Story Updated: Nov 16, 2008 at 1:38 PM EST

SOUTH BEND — Every time a car honked, they cheered. A group of about 20 people stood at the corner of Main Street and Jefferson Boulevard in downtown South Bend on Saturday, waving signs in support of same-sex marriage.

The rally was a reaction to the passage this month of same-sex marriage bans in four different states, the most notable of which was California.

California’s Proposition 8 overturned a state Supreme Court ruling that allowed for same-sex marriages.

“It sets a precedent,” said Mandy Studdard, who helped organize the South Bend rally. “People say ‘If the rest of the country doesn’t want this, why should we have it here?’ We’ve got to set a different precedent. That’s not how it’s supposed to be.”

South Bend’s event — where people held signs with slogans such as “No taxation w/o marriage” and “Don’t be gaycist” — coincided with marriage rallies across the country Saturday.

“People should be allowed to be in relationships and be married no matter what their gender,” said Bernie Dolezal, who held a paper flag with the U.S. stars and stripes motif on one half and rainbow stripes on the other.

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Wednesday, Nov 19 at 4:56 AM Jmish wrote ...

Your religion's hold on this country is weakening, Christians. The days of intolerant, ignorance-spewing bible thumpers are coming to an end. Gradually religion will continue it's decline. We won't see the end of it's influence in my life, I'm sure, but I dream of a brighter future. A future with more rational and tolerant people.

Wednesday, Nov 19 at 12:39 AM Sue wrote ...

I believe in God and Jesus, I trust the Bible. But, when Christians start reciting Scripture, to show that homosexuality is a sin, I don't believe it's for that reason only. Allowing gay marriage is like condoning the gay lifestyle, making it seem to be "ok", when in our minds, it's not. Although we're all sinners, we repent (which means to NOT do it again) and we can't approve of laws that go against the Bible's teachings. God WILL punish.

Tuesday, Nov 18 at 5:10 PM Not a hater wrote ...

Isn't there enough hate and warring in this world? Isn't the Golden Rule to love others as you love yourself? Maybe everyone should stop with the hateful messages and focus on what we do have in common: the love in our lives. We love our children, our families, our friends. Why isn't the fact we can all feel the same love an equalizing factor? Follow the Golden Rule and let God decide in the end.

Tuesday, Nov 18 at 12:06 PM Corfusion wrote ...

Actually Peeved I could care less but simply choose not to!

Tuesday, Nov 18 at 9:16 AM Married lesbian with kids wrote ...

To Corey - To us it's not about the "plumbing", I was merely pointing out the idiocy here. We do not have the choice to marry for love, (or tax breaks...), unless one of us has a very expensive, painful, maming surgery. So you're telling me, you're all for transgender marriages - WOW! Corey wrote ... To lesbian with kids.... then fell free to have a sex change... By the way, how DOES one "fall free to do so"?

Tuesday, Nov 18 at 6:46 AM bee wrote ...

you dont need a piece of paper from the govt.to be married.my husband and i dont and we live the married life.we choose to NOT have that paper for our own reasons.people have the right to be who they are,as long as they are not hurting anyone.i have gay friends and family and they dont care that im straight.so why should we care if someones gay?my sister in law and her girl would love to be married,and they are the perfect loving couple.who are we to judge?

Monday, Nov 17 at 9:35 PM Alan wrote ...

Happy: anyone who uses "methinks" rather than "I think" is pretentious and no one should pay any further attention to him/her. Write to express, not to impress. No one is impressed by your pseudo-Shakespearean usage. It is just poor usage. By the way, ask my girlfriend about my sexual orientation. I am comfortable in my heterosexuality, are you?

Monday, Nov 17 at 2:26 PM Peeved wrote ...

Gayriage aside, if there's one thing I cannot tolerate it's people like anon@12.31pm who use the phrase "I could care less". It is nonsensical and idiotic. Would it really kill people to add the word "not" in there?

Monday, Nov 17 at 1:37 PM to Melissa wrote ...

Leviticus also says you can't cut the corner of your beard, whatever that means. And wearing clothes made of two types of material is a sin too. Apparently so is crossbreeding cows and wheat. It also says you should burn animals in sacrifice to God, and if you touch the burned carcass you become holy. On the other hand, the handicapped aren't allowed to go to church. Probably not the best book to quote from. Just saying, Lev. is a little odd.

Monday, Nov 17 at 1:06 PM LJ wrote ...

Mick - I don't for a moment think we should all think the same, but we all need to be treated the same under the law and that is the issue here.

Monday, Nov 17 at 1:04 PM Cornfusion wrote ...

There's no sin in being gay. It IS considered a serious offense to God if one PRACTICES a gay life style. You know what else is offensive to God? Things like people bashing each other for ANY reason. People using His Holy Bible as a weapon or a confirmation to blurt in someones face, "I told you so." We're not going to change anything here, especially by these means. What's being discussed here's been going on since the beginning and will continue until the end of time. Then God will decide.

Monday, Nov 17 at 1:00 PM Hetero girl wrote ...

Oh Darvis, please get some help. Gay or straight, you sound extremely depressed. I have been there...don't give up Please! You need to talk to someone and maybe get some antidepressants to pull you through this. Just hang in there, there is more to life than having a partner. Also, stay off these hateful message boards full of hipocrits...you will be better off.

Monday, Nov 17 at 12:34 PM JIMBO wrote ...

That story was so touching it brought a tear to my eye...NOT!

Monday, Nov 17 at 12:31 PM Anonymous wrote ...

I support gay marriage. I could honestly care less if they are married or not. I think it's wrong that just because one don't believe its right that they can't. Leave them alone, don't you people have some abortion clinics to bash anyhow? Everyones always worried about everyone else. If you would set back and take a good look at the person you are it just might scare you. It's only OK when it's one of yours, right? Leave the Bible out of it, you are not the Lord above.

Monday, Nov 17 at 12:29 PM Renee wrote ...

No one says Gay couples can not pledge themselves to each other in the manner of a husband and wife. They just need to call it something else. "Gay Unionship" Marriage is for man and woman

Monday, Nov 17 at 11:46 AM "happy" wrote ...

Alan, methinks thou dost protest too much. Come on out of that closet already, would you? It's OK, really.

Monday, Nov 17 at 11:21 AM Read this! wrote ...

Okay, for everyone reciting the Bible... The Bible also says it's wrong to have sex before marriage, wrong to lie, wrong to get drunk, wrong to work on Sunday, wrong to hate, wrong to judge, wrong to to be jealous, wrong to not take care of your bodies, wrong to gossip, etc. How many of these sins have you commited? A sins is a sin. You can't pick and choose for your own convenience.

Monday, Nov 17 at 11:19 AM Anonymous wrote ...

Everyone that reconizes someone at the "rally" should post those names here. Let's see if they are really proud to be in this group.

Monday, Nov 17 at 11:19 AM Darvis wrote ...

I am a gay person who really, seriously just doesnt know what to think. If I could find someone to love me, my unending pain would be gone I'm sure. But then the mockery of people would hurt badly too. The worst thing is my Bible says being gay is a sin but also so is suicide. Fortunately I am too ugly and broken to find a partner so I do not have to make any decisions. So I live a whole life of misery, alone. I guess thats just Gods plan for me. I hope you all have nicer lives married or not

Monday, Nov 17 at 11:17 AM BMIA wrote ...

I support gay marriage, and I am a straight married black male. I would like to have two wives, but I know that is further away than gay marriage. If we can pass same sex marriage laws, then trying pass a law for multiple wives should be fairly easy. Gay marriage is not going to hurt anyone.If you are not gay, it should not affect your life. Most of you are the same folks that did not agree with interracial marriages sometime ago. Banning gay marriage does not stop people from being gay!

Monday, Nov 17 at 11:14 AM gaycist wrote ...

i think i like that better than homophobe. never known anyone actually afraid of gays, like running away screaming the way folks do with spiders or airplanes. i think most people who don't like gays are more annoyed by them than anything else, sort of homolergic i guess.

Monday, Nov 17 at 10:48 AM blackard wrote ...

only in south bend. lol

Monday, Nov 17 at 10:12 AM Anonymous wrote ...

where do we draw the line at enought is enough????

Monday, Nov 17 at 10:09 AM Figures wrote ...

This is looks like something that would happen in moral-free South Bend.

Monday, Nov 17 at 9:57 AM ReaderinFlorida wrote ...

Ok... No Gay marriage, aS a Gay man thats fine by me. However if thats the case then once a straight couple gets married they should have to stay married.. NO MATTER WHAT!!! If it is a sacred union. then it should not be broken... Hate your husband or wife? to bad. you chose them.. stay with them... Why cant we pass a bill like that... then maybe straight people will give marriage the attention that it deserves... No easy way in for our rights No EASY WAY OUT of yours!!! Practice what u preach!

Monday, Nov 17 at 8:50 AM Alan wrote ...

Exactly how is the legalization of gay marriage going to "harm" the sanctity of marriage? I am a divorced heterosexual man. Many things caused my divorce, however, the gay couple living down the street WAS NOT ONE OF THEM. I believe there is a line in your Bible about seeing the mote in your brother's eye and not the beam in your own. (I'm not even going to try the King James version spellings), but think about it.

Monday, Nov 17 at 8:48 AM Bob wrote ...

Everyone thinks they can do what they want but there is coming a Judgement.

Monday, Nov 17 at 8:35 AM April Mencias wrote ...

STOP!! Talking about the bible when we die we are all the same WE get put in the dirt!!!!

Monday, Nov 17 at 8:20 AM jason wrote ...

20 people may not be huge to some people, but i think it's amazing. Anonymous: if you're for gay marriage, then you'd be anti prop 8 btw. for anyone who is for prop 8 and banning gay marriage- i feel sorry for you. it's inevitable that eventually gay people will be able to marry.

Monday, Nov 17 at 8:16 AM Here we go wrote ...

Why is it that Bible beaters are quick to talk about Soddam and Gamorrah, but they never finish the story. Yes, God destroyed the city and turned Lot's wife into a pillar of salt, but what they don't tell you is that Lot went into the mountains with his two daughters got drunk and impregnated BOTH of them!

Monday, Nov 17 at 8:16 AM david wrote ...

hey shoppy, who died and left YOU boss. you aren't christian ANYTHING. because your sitting there,judging people, and doesn't "GOD" say "judge not lest yet be judged" I think it's time you stop passing judgement on people you DON'T know, and that do NOTHING to you, for you to be this way towards them. YA THINK??

Monday, Nov 17 at 8:15 AM Mark wrote ...

The issue here is marriage as defined as a man and a women. Civil Union is what you call a gays joining together. Live with it and stay out of the news. I am tired of hearing about this. The state of California voted and it passed. Quit your whining.

Monday, Nov 17 at 8:13 AM David wrote ...

I'm SO SICK of hearing people say "GAY IS WRONG" you know what, people are what they are, you think because of your LAME opinion, people are gonna change themselves for YOU?? GET OVER YOURSELVES. If you worried as much about your OWN family, as you do OTHER people's families, you might get MORE done. MORE power to the 20 people who were there. btw, how many of you, WISH you were there, but were afraid your FAMILY might find out?? hmm??

Monday, Nov 17 at 8:12 AM Ana wrote ...

Gee, I am glad that we aren't letting gay people ruin the sanctity of marriage! Just think what would happen! There would be adultery, physical abuse, open marriage, and a divorce rate over 57%!!! Oh wait, I forgot...STRAIGHT people already ruined the sanctity of marriage! Get off the high horse people, EVERYONE should be able to marry!

Monday, Nov 17 at 7:40 AM Elmer wrote ...

Dear WOW, it saddens me to think that you are in your own little world. I know hundreds, yes hundreds, of people who were not shacked up before marriages. But you are correct that everyone sins. Some it may be a lie others it may be murder and also we have gayisma. We all know are sins, but do not blame others because you are miserable.

Monday, Nov 17 at 7:35 AM J Wise wrote ...

I saw my supervisor there, I was so embarrassed.

Monday, Nov 17 at 7:33 AM Well... wrote ...

See, I have never read the bible...I prefer non-fiction, myself. And as far as being ignorant, at least I can SPELL.

Monday, Nov 17 at 6:50 AM mick wrote ...

Mostly everybody thinks that everybody should think the same way they do! Thats what wrong! Thinking about personal rights and thinking who cares what other people think is #1 problem . I wonder whats next in this GREAT COUNTRY of ours? Ya right!

Monday, Nov 17 at 12:55 AM WOW wrote ...

If they jailed people for breaking gods laws, they would run out of room, cause every body sins and most the people in the area are shacked up and thats against the laws,but they are free to teach it to thier children and disrespect them so there is no way the laws can be inforced.and what others do does not get you to heaven or hell. it is what you do your self you have to worry about. so if they want to sin thats up to god to decide,not us. bless every one and protect every one.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 10:37 PM Anonymous wrote ...

I'm PRO PROP 8. I feel all people should be able to marry. Even if their was 20 people at this rally, there are people supporting this.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 10:32 PM liloleme wrote ...

there may have only been 20 people at the protest , but there sure are alot of entries here, oh ny they must be everywhere. lol run gaycists run. ;o;. gays should stop paying for straights to practice their given right by not paying taxes to a government that does not promote equality to all. it is probably the 2 percent solution/ The solution with the highest income,and diserecnary funds. Or it might even be higher if you can find and count the closet gaycist.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 9:58 PM Jennifer wrote ...

Wish i could have been there...i have been a lesbian since i was 14, i wish it was easier than it is to marry, i have been with my partner for 5 years, and we consider ourself married, we have rings, and have even had a ceremony, here in indiana, it is just not written on paper. The paper means nothing. We and our families know we are together forever and in out eyes that is all that matters! and i am sure alot of the other gays think the same way!

Sunday, Nov 16 at 9:44 PM Dillweed wrote ...

I just realized for the first time in my life that I'm a gaycist.....

Sunday, Nov 16 at 9:25 PM Brian wrote ...

Please.... the entire Gay lobby pushed for the "States to decide", now the most Liberal state in the Union decided "NO" and People are upset. For those of you throwing around the word "Intolerant", please reference the Webster dictionary. You're all using the word incorrectly.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 9:06 PM come on now wrote ...

you call 20 or so people a rally? And then to say, South Bend Rally supports gay rights? I agree with you 100% Rick Copen. We shall say bad is good and good is bad.............

Sunday, Nov 16 at 8:56 PM Lynn wrote ...

For a very well articulated statement on this subject, go to Youtube, and search for Keith Olbermann from MSNBC's special commentary.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 8:55 PM the real world wrote ...

These bans were overwhelmingly supported by blacks and Hispanics. That's why there's not a lot of news coverage of it. Gays are reportedly hurt by the bigotry and hypocrisy. They must be living on some other planet to be surprised by this.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 8:53 PM what's in a name? wrote ...

As a lesbian in a monogamous 13 year relationship... I don't care if the ability to be united legally is called a marriage, a civil union or whatever... what counts to ME is that I have the RIGHT as a working taxpayer to do so. Being required to pay taxes, but not being allowed my constitutional right to life. liberty and the pursuit of happiness, is wrong!

Sunday, Nov 16 at 8:49 PM How dare they? wrote ...

To Whatever - how do gay people throw their lifestyle in your face, by daring to express the love they have for each other, the same way that you can?

Sunday, Nov 16 at 8:46 PM jerroy wrote ...

As a 69 yr. old gay man I believe that those who speak against gay rights wantsex so bad. They either are having it or want and afraid to do it. How about a congressman from Florida who wanted sex with the young male pages. How about the preacher from Colorado who hired man whores. how about the senator with the wide stand in the airport. Want more? These guys all preached or fought against gay right

Sunday, Nov 16 at 8:44 PM JJ wrote ...

It is no wonder why other states look at Indiana as a state with a bunch of rednecks and thugs. I have to agree after reading all of the ignorant comments regarding this issue. Growing up, I was taught to respect and accept all people because it was the Christian thing to do. It scares me to think that all of the people reciting the Bible while talking hate and death call themselves Chritians. It is absolutely none of anyone's business if two straight or gay people want to get married.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 8:37 PM Corey wrote ...

To lesbian with kids.... then fell free to have a sex change...were not stopping you!

Sunday, Nov 16 at 8:33 PM Do Your Homework wrote ...

Webster: research shows that the incidence of a sexual orientation other than heterosexual is between 10 - 25% of the human population. It is not about religion, its is about equity. Want to discriminate against a sector of the population? Have the guts to be honest about it and say that anyone who is not heterosexual should not have the same rights as those who are. Don't try to trivialize it by saying less than 2%. All should have the right to marry the person they love, regardless.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 8:05 PM Married lesbian with kids wrote ...

Also, did you know that if either one of us had a 'sex change' we would be allowed to marry?

Sunday, Nov 16 at 8:02 PM Married lesbian with kids wrote ...

If the purpose of 'mariage' is to procreate, then it would stand to reason sterile people should not be allowed to marry and those who have had a vasectomy or hystorectomy now have invalid marriages. All it takes is sperm and an egg, a marriage does not cause or create pregnancy. Civil Unions FOR ALL is the answer, save marriages for church, just let us all have EQUAL rights!

Sunday, Nov 16 at 7:55 PM to Well... wrote ...

If you are truely that ignorant and believe that there is not refence to the bible saying that homesexuality is wrong then you are extremelt ignorant. EVERY MAJOR religion says homosexuality is wrong. Actually most of them put those who practice homosexuality to death. Right or wrong, that is reality.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 7:52 PM Marriage wrote ...

Considering Marriage is a religious event regardless of what everyone wants to say, There is no way ANY major religion through out the world would condone it. The answer in not marriage but equal rights. It shoudl be that insurance companies should not be able to say who you can insure on your policy but what risk in involed. Everyone under a group policy plan should NOT be paying the same, they guy with 10 kids should not be paying the same as the guy with 1. Good intentions wrong approach.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 7:30 PM B.L.A wrote ...

Marraige is a legal contract, between two people, period. Most couples also enter into a marraige in the eyes of their church... but not all. Some couples do not, they get married at city hall. Each church is free to not to marry couples who do not fit the beliefs of that church. But the government does NOT have the right to deny two people to enter into the legal contract. We would not support a law that restricted who could enter into any OTHER legal contract. Wake up people!

Sunday, Nov 16 at 7:12 PM rcculver wrote ...

Maybe all of use McCain supports should get together and protest the election. Our side lost. We should stand on the street corner & make fools of ourselves.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 6:58 PM Tomas wrote ...

Can I marry a chicken if it is the opposite gender from myself?

Sunday, Nov 16 at 5:19 PM Steve wrote ...

Mencias..."Why dont we just make a law that says two people cant get married becouse they are ugly!!!" Such a law would have my full support. There are way too many ugly people in this area and a law such as that would protect Indiana from becoming like Illinois. Lol As`for the gay marriage issue, can anyone explain the difference between "gay" and "Lesbian"? I thought "gay" meant homosexual. Isn't a "lesbian" a homosexual woman? Why do they call for "gay and lesbian rights"?

Sunday, Nov 16 at 5:06 PM whatever... wrote ...

I have some gay friends. I enjoy thier friendships here, but I don't think I will see them in heaven. That said, what people do behind closed doors is none of our business, but when they make it our business by throwing it up in our faces, we will let them know how we feel.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 4:50 PM James wrote ...

God was the first lawmaker and when he created man he also created women for man he didn't create a second man. God wants reproduction and 2 men or 2 women cannot do that. Keep your lifestyle to yourself. People should be jailed for such acts the are breaking the law GODS LAW.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 4:30 PM why? wrote ...

Why give these sodomists any press? Slow news day WSBT?

Sunday, Nov 16 at 3:57 PM Todd wrote ...

The Universal Declaration of Human Rights in which we base marriage on in most of the world states that it is between and man and a woman, regardless of race. It says nothing about regardless of gender. You have a long road ahead of you if you think any state in the central US is going to allow gay marriage. Not going to happen. 20 people in a city of 100,000 protesting is about a joke.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 3:32 PM Jill wrote ...

Did I say that abortion is the answer? No I did not. Are you calling marriage a consequence for not using protection? Okay my thoughts on abortion...it is bad, wrong and immoral to abort a child who is simply "unwanted" or "a mistake" on the other hand if someone was not given the choice to have sex (rape or incest) it is bad, wrong and immoral to force them to carry the baby and should have the choice of abortion as long as it is done within the first trimester.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 3:14 PM Re: Michael wrote ...

Thanks for reminding us that our new president elect is not black, but bi racial/white and kenyan.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 3:01 PM Teacher wrote ...

Jill is it wrong to teach 18 year olds that there are consequences for their behavior? If they what to act like adults they have to accept adult consequences. Is it wrong to teach 18 year olds that unborn life should be respected? Or teach them what’s one more abortion in the 35,000,000 that have been committed in the US since abortion became judicial law of the land.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 2:56 PM Historian wrote ...

W.A. Gordon I do believe it was the "majoriety" who defeated Hitler.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 2:54 PM Webster wrote ...

Kyle and jerroy, Why do we constantly have to redefine the English language for a group that is less than 2% of the population? When I was a child, I could say I was “gay” which used to mean happy and bright. You have all of the legal rights of marriage in a civil union. Why do we have to continue to redefine words for a small minority?

Sunday, Nov 16 at 2:51 PM Old Married Woman wrote ...

My husband and I have been married for 40 years. I cannot understand how gay marriage will threaten my marriage or any heterosexual marriage for that matter. Cherry-picking from the Bible can be dangerous: Exodus 35:2 calls for death for anyone who works on the sabbath..anyone out there still want to tell us that we should always take the Bible literally, or just when it supports their prejudices?

Sunday, Nov 16 at 2:27 PM Jill wrote ...

Crazies? At least I don't bow down to the mythical man in the sky. Religion should have no bearing on laws. There is obviously right and wrong...good and bad...maoral and immoral...and I wouldn't say two women or two men being in love is bad, wrong or immoral. I would however say that it is bad, wrong and immoral to persuade two 18 year olds that conceive a child to get married just because thats what "god" says they should do.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 2:12 PM god? wrote ...

Please. which God? who's God? stop judging. What happened to separation of church and state? Or is that only for the Religious types to utilize? And with everyone quoting the bible, what happened to "Judge and be judged?" Hypocrites for sure

Sunday, Nov 16 at 2:12 PM Bob wrote ...

Thank You California!! For once majority rules!! Can we also vote to outlaw abortion? This would pass by a huge margin!

Sunday, Nov 16 at 1:34 PM CryForAmerica wrote ...

Obama is not even annointed yet and the crazies are coming out of the woodwork. I think we better seriously think about having a national "divorce", what with the liberal loonies coming down the road, they who have no respect for tradition, the Constitution.....or decency. How about we divide the country up into four parts and populate the different sections with like-minded people. We're never going to get along as is. And oh yes, a fifth section completely devoid of people just for wildlife.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 1:29 PM Anonymous wrote ...

Sep of church and state is misunderstand. Sep of church and state dictates that congress shall pass no establishing a religion. The people of CA decided the fate of their fellow Californians. That's how it should be. It shouldn't be 9 people sitting on a panel that decides what's best for the country. btw, I'm for allowing gays and lesbians to have the same rights (ie, benefits, custody, etc) entitled to hetero marriages.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 1:14 PM Dr. W. A. Gordon wrote ...

Just because "the majority has spoken" does not mean they have spoken correctly. The majority has often spoken incorrectly, e.g., the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, the Nazi Holocaust, The Salem Witch trials, U.S. Slavery, the denial of women the right to vote, Apartheid, and the list goes on--the problem in this world is not the people who are unaware, and filled with hate and ignorance,its the people who do nothing about it. Normal only means common, and fear and ignorance is quite common.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 1:00 PM jerroy wrote ...

No No NO marriage is not a religious event. It is a civil event. dear Brian the republicans and regilious crazies are the ones that say let the state decide. At 69 and with my partner 25 yrs, why can't I have the same rights and the rest of you guys?

Sunday, Nov 16 at 12:34 PM Kaylie wrote ...

A true Christian trusts in God and leaves all judgement to the Almighty.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 12:31 PM CH wrote ...

I CAN'T STAND THAT WHOLE ADAM AND STEVE THING!!! We are all HUMANS!!EQUAL RIGHTS TO ALL!!

Sunday, Nov 16 at 12:24 PM Crack your bible out 10:14 AM Well... wrote ... wrote ...

You want word and verse- here are a few.... 1 Corinthians 6:9, Gen. 19:4-5, 11-13, Genesis 13:13; 19:5, Jude 1:7, Romans 1:26-27, Romans 1:32, and Matthew 19:4-5- just to name a few. Now that I have presented you what you sarcastically asked for, I'd like you to return the favor. I want to know word and verse where the bible clearly states that homosexuality is acceptable. Thank you and have a wonderful day!

Sunday, Nov 16 at 12:15 PM Melissa wrote ...

We certainly acknowledge that AIDS has broken out of the homosexual community, and now, many innocent people are suffering with this disease through no fault of their own.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 12:14 PM Melissa wrote ...

Today the penalty of death comes in the form of AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases. It also brings death to the soul and spirit of man because the life of God is pushed out by indulging in something that is an abomination to God. God wants to deliver all who are trapped in this unholy practice and He will if anyone calls out to Him with a sincere heart.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 12:12 PM Melissa wrote ...

Leviticus 20:13 "If a man also lie wiht mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death;their blood shall be upon them."

Sunday, Nov 16 at 12:08 PM Melissa wrote ...

To Well @ 10:14 am- this is from the KJV. Leviticus 18:22- "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

Sunday, Nov 16 at 11:40 AM Michael wrote ...

There was a time in our country where interracial marriage was illegal. That is how the majority wanted it. Our country doesn't just let the majority run everything, there are protections for minorities. I am confident gay marriage will eventually become legal, it just might not be tomorrow. Gandhi once said "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." The fight is on, gays will win equal rights eventually.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 11:39 AM Brian wrote ...

Everyone says, "Let the states decide for themselves". Yet, when a State does decide; it's deemed "intolerant" derided as "hate-mongering"... The people Spoke by a large margin.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 11:21 AM H wrote ...

It would be interesting to see how many of the people who comment against gay marriage are divorced or have several children with different partners. Marriage is abused all of the time by people that it "is intended for". How exactly does gay marriage affect the lives of those who are against it? It does not.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 10:52 AM Elmer wrote ...

If “gays” want to have their partners on legal paper why don’t they just adopt them? Also, they could draw up “legal” papers. This is just craziness, next we will here about someone wanting to marry an animal.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 10:49 AM Megan wrote ...

The voters have spoken. The minority will not dictate to the majority.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 10:28 AM JR wrote ...

Their time would have been better spent at the Hope Rescue Mission helping those less fortunate. They lost and will continue to lose their battle to be "married." Get over it. This nation is doesn't define marriage in that way. Start you own nation. You could but it would die out because you couldn't procreate...that should tell you it is wrong.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 10:16 AM class wrote ...

what happened to separation of church and state? marriage is a religious event. comment by CH states it all. equal rights means equal rights. government can not deny my right to "marry" my partner and receive the same benefits of marriage (insurance, property rights, etc.)yet TAKE MY TAX DOLLARS! EQUAL RIGHTS ACROSS THE LAND! we were all created human. why would anyone think gays or lesbians don't believe in jesus christ? on the contrary, we follow jesus's example to love one another. DA !

Sunday, Nov 16 at 10:14 AM Well... wrote ...

Okay, Eve. Tell me exactly, word and verse where the "bible" says that homosexuality is a sin.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 10:11 AM Anonymous wrote ...

Hey, I want more than 1 spouse, for BI people, 1 husband 1 wife. The clock is ticking, and Gabriel is warming up his trumpet.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 9:58 AM Anonymous wrote ...

I have many gay friends and most of them are disturbed by the actions of their counterparts in California. In trying to get their rights recognized, they trample on the rights of others to worship. The gays in Cali have lost sight of one thing: It was the black and latino vote that made prop 8 pass. Instead of blaming them, they'd rather blame the good christian lady who finds their lifestyle wrong.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 9:50 AM April Mencias wrote ...

I SUPPORT IT!!! Its their right to live how they want too. Why dont we just make a law that says two people cant get married becouse they are ugly!! We all have our own life to live so stay out of everybody elses business if they are not hurting you!!! I am married to a man but I have lots of gay friends maybe you people who just judge shut up!! As far as you people who always talk abou the bible it is just a book!!!!

Sunday, Nov 16 at 9:43 AM Kyle wrote ...

Gay marriage opponents can't give an explanation for their opposition without treading on religious grounds. America was founded on the ideal that church and state should be separate. That means religion should not influence our laws. For that matter, when it comes to basic civil rights, these issues should not come up to popular vote. If we had a vote on whether bi-racial marriage should have been legal, it undoubtedly would have been outlawed.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 9:16 AM Eve...not Steve wrote ...

I support certain laws for gays to give them some rights as far as property, financial matters, illness and end of life matters. But I do not support "marriage"...that is to be between a man and a woman only. The Bible still has to stand for something! I know, most gays don't believe in God and heaven, wow, they will have a wake up call some day.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 8:39 AM nla wrote ...

i think if they want to be partners, fine but marriage is a union between a man and a women and it should stay that way.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 8:34 AM Confused wrote ...

Can someone please tell me why there are males and females then? There are two sexes right? And forgive me for saying this but aren't even plumbing parts male and female? I'm sure our creator knew what he was doing when we were created. This is a sick world.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 8:24 AM Anonymous wrote ...

Must be Notre Dame students!

Sunday, Nov 16 at 8:10 AM Elmer wrote ...

Add this to the quotation; a pedophile says he/she are born this way, should we pass laws saying it's ok? An alcoholic says this have a disease, should they be excused when they are driving drunk? Where is the limit?

Sunday, Nov 16 at 8:06 AM Elmer wrote ...

Okay let's have only gay marriages that would mean the end to life. There is only a marraige between and man and a woman it can not be any other way.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 7:50 AM CH wrote ...

Wish I could have been there!! Great job!! Equal rights Means EQUAL RIGHTS!!

Sunday, Nov 16 at 7:48 AM Shoppy wrote ...

Godf has said homosexuality is a abomination. God destroyed Sodem and Gamora because of it I fear God a lot more than a bunch of misguided individuals. Its no wonder this nation is collapsing under its own imorality. Make no mistake you will answer to our creater. I am predjedce only to the extent just like murder rape, and robbery is wrong,so is gay marriage. God made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve

Sunday, Nov 16 at 7:45 AM Ray wrote ...

Mandy, That IS how marriage is to be. According to your own words the entire country believes so. The most liberal state in the union rejected gay marrige, and judging by the gay(which doesn't seam the right term, none of them appear to very happy)community response of protest and property damage. The outside support they received for the election is quickly disappearing. The great thing is that this is America and you are free to persue your cause, but that don't make it right.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 7:24 AM Well.... wrote ...

The gay folks I know already consider themselves married and have been with the same partner for years. A few even wear "wedding rings". And it's really funny, I have asked them about this and they all tell me the same thing....it's just a peice of paper and doesn't in the bigger picture, mean a thing....

Sunday, Nov 16 at 7:22 AM R Robert wrote ...

I don't support the gay lifestyle.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 7:06 AM rick copen wrote ...

Natural law includes gravity, the seasons, night and day. We can chose to follow natural law: not to murder. Our failure to obey natural law doesn’t mean the law is invalid. We cannot deny the attraction people may have, even if unnatural. We should not though take marriage, part of the natural law and call homosexual relationship natural. We cannot deny the homosexual couple the feelings they may have. We should be kind to them, but we should not endorse it by calling it natural.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 6:47 AM All People... wrote ...

... should be happy no matter who they marry, man or woman :) Equality for all.

Sunday, Nov 16 at 6:12 AM bwayne wrote ...

I support gay marriage. Why shouldn't they have to suffer like the rest of us?

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